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What kind of gains can we expect from a header change -
Ok so I dont want this to become a crazy header thread like the rest - I have 3 headers for my Eg. The car is a 92 Eg w/JDM Type-r motor baseline at Hookups was 174 on crome this was on a JMD Dc type-r copy header. Car is used for racing and just having fun - it is also on the bottle for those weekend trips to the track.
B20 cars give me a hard time in the mid-range so thats what we are looking for in a header. I read and read about the RMF / Rage style headers doing great on street cars - i also found that rage or hookups or whatever has a new "big tube" style. I want it to bolt in ----- really bolt in, no hittin the radiator or fan etc.
So dyno sheets or people that own these headers would be great to hear from -
B20 cars give me a hard time in the mid-range so thats what we are looking for in a header. I read and read about the RMF / Rage style headers doing great on street cars - i also found that rage or hookups or whatever has a new "big tube" style. I want it to bolt in ----- really bolt in, no hittin the radiator or fan etc.
So dyno sheets or people that own these headers would be great to hear from -
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (hotasscivic)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1543095 there ya go it was all the way at the top of this forum but i retrieved it for you. 
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (EM1_00MRBuilt)
ok thank u - this thread is on a b16a motor, i found one in the type r forum that was on a jdm type r chassis. No dyno sheets but he said he liked it. It was the og header not the nw big tube -
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (hotasscivic)
RMF narrow dominated in the header test on a stock type r..went from 174whp with the DC to 185whp with the narrow 
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (oldschool310)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oldschool310 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with the rmf</TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you - but i called both places and could not wait whitfield racing had it in stock. Had the ???rage?? header installed and tuned 186
thank you - but i called both places and could not wait whitfield racing had it in stock. Had the ???rage?? header installed and tuned 186
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotasscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thank you - but i called both places and could not wait whitfield racing had it in stock. Had the ???rage?? header installed and tuned 186 </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow what shipping do they use? They sent you a header from Upland to Philly and you had it installed and dynoed in two days. AND over a weekend.I am impressed.
thank you - but i called both places and could not wait whitfield racing had it in stock. Had the ???rage?? header installed and tuned 186
</TD></TR></TABLE> Wow what shipping do they use? They sent you a header from Upland to Philly and you had it installed and dynoed in two days. AND over a weekend.I am impressed.
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (hotasscivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotasscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so I dont want this to become a crazy header thread like the rest - I have 3 headers for my Eg. The car is a 92 Eg w/JDM Type-r motor baseline at Hookups was 174 on crome this was on a JMD Dc type-r copy header. Car is used for racing and just having fun - it is also on the bottle for those weekend trips to the track.
B20 cars give me a hard time in the mid-range so thats what we are looking for in a header. I read and read about the RMF / Rage style headers doing great on street cars - i also found that rage or hookups or whatever has a new "big tube" style. I want it to bolt in ----- really bolt in, no hittin the radiator or fan etc.
So dyno sheets or people that own these headers would be great to hear from - </TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't get it .Why would you post this in another thread.
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mine had a tag --- and got them from import power house
B20 cars give me a hard time in the mid-range so thats what we are looking for in a header. I read and read about the RMF / Rage style headers doing great on street cars - i also found that rage or hookups or whatever has a new "big tube" style. I want it to bolt in ----- really bolt in, no hittin the radiator or fan etc.
So dyno sheets or people that own these headers would be great to hear from - </TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't get it .Why would you post this in another thread.
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mine had a tag --- and got them from import power house
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (hotasscivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotasscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so I dont want this to become a crazy header thread like the rest - I have 3 headers for my Eg. The car is a 92 Eg w/JDM Type-r motor baseline at Hookups was 174 on crome this was on a JMD Dc type-r copy header. Car is used for racing and just having fun - it is also on the bottle for those weekend trips to the track.
B20 cars give me a hard time in the mid-range so thats what we are looking for in a header. I read and read about the RMF / Rage style headers doing great on street cars - i also found that rage or hookups or whatever has a new "big tube" style. I want it to bolt in ----- really bolt in, no hittin the radiator or fan etc.
So dyno sheets or people that own these headers would be great to hear from - </TD></TR></TABLE> Did you have it dynoed at Hookups? Seems like a long drive.
B20 cars give me a hard time in the mid-range so thats what we are looking for in a header. I read and read about the RMF / Rage style headers doing great on street cars - i also found that rage or hookups or whatever has a new "big tube" style. I want it to bolt in ----- really bolt in, no hittin the radiator or fan etc.
So dyno sheets or people that own these headers would be great to hear from - </TD></TR></TABLE> Did you have it dynoed at Hookups? Seems like a long drive.
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (RMF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RMF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I don't get it .Why would you post this in another thread.
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how much?
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how much?
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (DonF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Did you have it dynoed at Hookups? Seems like a long drive. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what i was thinking lol.. Upland CA to Philly is quite a distance..
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's what i was thinking lol.. Upland CA to Philly is quite a distance..
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (00MRSi)
If this is the primer color eg that it tuned (I think it is) this guy said something about just moved here from god knows where. I believe baseline was 174 ish and we put our header on and then tuned on it for a bit and ended up at 186-187. Not a bad gain for an off the shelf header and some tuning......... By the way randy what's up with coming to see us and hang out for a bit?,? We can cruise the caddy lol
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (HOOKUPS)
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man everyuone really cares about my living arrangement - i recently moved to california.
So does this make the header make more or less power because of where i live now ?? Lots of tech help on that huh.
RMF - i posted that about your header because i have one of those units as well. ---
So does this make the header make more or less power because of where i live now ?? Lots of tech help on that huh.
RMF - i posted that about your header because i have one of those units as well. ---
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (hotasscivic)
ive had both, and both did very well. however, on a 1.8l i have not had anyone beat the RMF yet. the SMSP was .5whp off so i feel its very close to the RMF.
the Rage header is a good buy for the money, make sure you port the flange though
the Rage header is a good buy for the money, make sure you port the flange though
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (VtecKiDD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecKiDD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive had both, and both did very well. however, on a 1.8l i have not had anyone beat the RMF yet. the SMSP was .5whp off so i feel its very close to the RMF.
the Rage header is a good buy for the money, make sure you port the flange though</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tuning is a big part of a header's gains.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so correct so correct - im glad you said that
the Rage header is a good buy for the money, make sure you port the flange though</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tuning is a big part of a header's gains.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so correct so correct - im glad you said that
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (SMSP)
Very true however the car was already tuned and made 174 then retunned with the new header. In my exper. When youstep up from an itr or DC itr to a quality header such as the RAGE(whitfield racing) or RMF,SMSP ect the car almost always goes lean because the new header is making better use of the fuel that is supplied... Add more fuel..make more power...}TUNING IS EVERYTHING when making changes to a given setup
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (Jason@Rage)
yes tuning is everything. baddest header in the world dont do **** without tuning. I agree chris they do tend to lean out with the "bigger headers"
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (VtecKiDD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecKiDD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes tuning is everything. baddest header in the world dont do **** without tuning. I agree chris they do tend to lean out with the "bigger headers"</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeh, you telling me. Here's a customer who just got one of my H22 headers. Stock H22 with 2-1/2" cat and exhaust. No tuning was done yet and he mistakingly left the AC on when they dyno'd it. I think no AC and a bit more fuel will yield some nice gains across the board.
Yeh, you telling me. Here's a customer who just got one of my H22 headers. Stock H22 with 2-1/2" cat and exhaust. No tuning was done yet and he mistakingly left the AC on when they dyno'd it. I think no AC and a bit more fuel will yield some nice gains across the board.
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Re: What kind of gains can we expect from a header change - (hotasscivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotasscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so I dont want this to become a crazy header thread like the rest - I have 3 headers for my Eg. The car is a 92 Eg w/JDM Type-r motor baseline at Hookups was 174 on crome this was on a JMD Dc type-r copy header. Car is used for racing and just having fun - it is also on the bottle for those weekend trips to the track.
B20 cars give me a hard time in the mid-range so thats what we are looking for in a header. I read and read about the RMF / Rage style headers doing great on street cars - i also found that rage or hookups or whatever has a new "big tube" style. I want it to bolt in ----- really bolt in, no hittin the radiator or fan etc.
So dyno sheets or people that own these headers would be great to hear from - </TD></TR></TABLE>
So you used the new "big tube" rage header on your B18 to get B20 torque? You plan on posting both graphs?
Hookups always seems to be able to make good power from that Rage/HyTech Header. Too bad this guy didn't have the same luck as you.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1532476
Modified by SMSP at 12:25 AM 6/14/2006
B20 cars give me a hard time in the mid-range so thats what we are looking for in a header. I read and read about the RMF / Rage style headers doing great on street cars - i also found that rage or hookups or whatever has a new "big tube" style. I want it to bolt in ----- really bolt in, no hittin the radiator or fan etc.
So dyno sheets or people that own these headers would be great to hear from - </TD></TR></TABLE>
So you used the new "big tube" rage header on your B18 to get B20 torque? You plan on posting both graphs?
Hookups always seems to be able to make good power from that Rage/HyTech Header. Too bad this guy didn't have the same luck as you.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1532476
Modified by SMSP at 12:25 AM 6/14/2006
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecKiDD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">RMF Header vs HYTECH/RAGE
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1538831</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here it is in black and white and red and blue.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1538831</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here it is in black and white and red and blue.
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