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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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stock block b16 with sk2s2 cams..its a 1g block so i think they came from the factory rated at 10.2:1 ..i need to get the compression up to around 11:1 for these cams to work right....but i dont want to rebuild the block... i had the head resurfaced and they removed .005...i also have flat faced valves...now i was going to run an oem two layer hg but i dont think this will put me over 11:1..so i want to go with the middle layer of the oem hg....i believe this should get me at least 11:1...my only concrn is, i dont want to ruin this practically new head and maybe the whole motor, so i want to make sure the valves will clear before i do this...
now ive asked around, and it seems that not that many people are running these cams any more...im just hoping someone who has run a similar set-up can chime in...thanks
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brick top &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i run s2s2 cams in my ls vtec with pr3 pistons. no clearance problems at all. no milling. 3 layer gasket. u shouldn't have any problems with the two layer. wouldn't hurt to clay it though. i didn't.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im already running a 3layer...i know a 2layer will work as well...but id like to really run a single so i can reach the minimum CR skunk recommends for these cams...my head has little to no milling at all so i dont think i will run into clearance issues...id just like to get sum feedback from people with similetups before i go about doing this...

will i run into any reliability issues running a single layer?
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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damn i guess nobody runs these cams no more
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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I believe the flat face valves will bump you up .4 then you should be right at 11:1.

see here to run your own calcs.

http://www.zealautowerks.com/index.html

With out the valves you are at 10.6
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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really the flat faced valves yield a .4 bump in comp. ?...i always thought they didnt do much....i got valves,retainers,and springs as part of a kit from supertech when i got my valve job...ima go search around a bit, but if its true that the valves gimme .4 i can run a 2 layer and be worry free...thanks for the insight man
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suck my DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really the flat faced valves yield a .4 bump in comp. ?...i always thought they didnt do much....i got valves,retainers,and springs as part of a kit from supertech when i got my valve job...ima go search around a bit, but if its true that the valves gimme .4 i can run a 2 layer and be worry free...thanks for the insight man</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry man I just checked with some others, and they think you can get a .3 bump. But if you mill your head about to 10 mils total then you will be at 11:1.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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is it possible for a machine shop to mill a head without me having to take it all apart?
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Yes, a shop can mill a head without taking it apart.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, a shop can mill a head without taking it apart.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You will however have to take it off of the block.... I've heard of a one layer headgasket yielding a .2 bump in compression and as mar778c said a .3 bump for the flat faced valves. The bump from milling all depends on how much you take off of it. You may want to run the numbers as far as piston to valve clearance...maybe have someone clay your motor?
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HONDA_TYPE_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You will however have to take it off of the block.... I've heard of a one layer headgasket yielding a .2 bump in compression and as mar778c said a .3 bump for the flat faced valves. The bump from milling all depends on how much you take off of it. You may want to run the numbers as far as piston to valve clearance...maybe have someone clay your motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
how can i run the numbers for piston to valve clearance?

what exactly is involved in claying a motor?
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