building a single cam
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building a single cam
im gonna build my single cam, yes im gonna build my single cam cuz i dont want want to go with the mandatory dohc swap so i was wondering what internals are available for a single cam d16y8 also keep in mind im going to turbo it
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sohcs belong in your shoes....
no no no....im just playing...umm power is in Compression and Flow.....Thats all you need to know...
P&P head milled,Bored stroked,bottom end,P&P manifold,high comp pistons light weight rods and crank,wild *** cams and lots of tuning...theres your wild setup...minus from it if it you cannot afford...and when you start doing that you gotta start matching parts mainly cams and manifold to your head and block capabilitys.
no no no....im just playing...umm power is in Compression and Flow.....Thats all you need to know...
P&P head milled,Bored stroked,bottom end,P&P manifold,high comp pistons light weight rods and crank,wild *** cams and lots of tuning...theres your wild setup...minus from it if it you cannot afford...and when you start doing that you gotta start matching parts mainly cams and manifold to your head and block capabilitys.
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Check over at D-series.org for a better explanation of what all goes into a SOHC build up.
http://www.d-series.org/forums...21761
check this thread too for some good info.
http://www.d-series.org/forums...21761
check this thread too for some good info.
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Re: (TV00ek)
I was going to build a d16y8 for a turbo, going to run 20 pounds.
There are SOOO many options for a SOHC
I was going to go with:
Benson Sleeved block
CP pistons
(Best on the market IMO)
Peuter or Cunningham rods
and a blanced and micropolished crank
I hadn't thought as far as the head, but there are many options out there.
There are SOOO many options for a SOHC
I was going to go with:
Benson Sleeved block
CP pistons
(Best on the market IMO)Peuter or Cunningham rods
and a blanced and micropolished crank
I hadn't thought as far as the head, but there are many options out there.
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build for lower compression... alot of people do 9:1
pick a piston brand u like, but I prefer CP pistons.
get the head ported and get really good flow numbers from the head.
try to get a large plenum intake manifold (which I have for sale
)
check my sig for my setup.
yes I make alot of torque!
pick a piston brand u like, but I prefer CP pistons.
get the head ported and get really good flow numbers from the head.
try to get a large plenum intake manifold (which I have for sale
)check my sig for my setup.
yes I make alot of torque!
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Re: (SOHC4life 96)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was going to build a d16y8 for a turbo, going to run 20 pounds. </TD></TR></TABLE>
20 lbs on wat a t25 or gt47r?
ditch the y8 and get a z6
z6 is much better
use obd1 oil pump
20 lbs on wat a t25 or gt47r?
ditch the y8 and get a z6
z6 is much better
use obd1 oil pump
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Re: (jdmchop)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TV00ek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes im gonna build my single cam cuz i dont want to go with the mandatory dohc swap</TD></TR></TABLE>
IMO...your just wasting money on a sohc where there better options...
my reasoning to why an dohc is mandatory...
even if you went with an LS swap...which already has lower compression...
You'd
A. Have more displacement and low compression
B. Could use the money to build the head where the LS has its weak points
C. Have an outrageous amount more torque and the motor stays mostly oem
down the line i think you'd be more satisfied.
I see ALL the time oem bottom to top boosted 300whp LS builds.
I know you can find LS swaps these days for under 1k. Sell that y8 swap for pretty much half the money and replace a few parts on the LS and start from there.
This is just a suggestion and in no way bashing all the sohc freaks on this forum. I think before you jump into a boosted build you should look at it from all aspects. B16's and B18a/b's are going severaly down in price due to all the people wanting the B18c's which have skyrocket'd
IMO...your just wasting money on a sohc where there better options...
my reasoning to why an dohc is mandatory...
even if you went with an LS swap...which already has lower compression...
You'd
A. Have more displacement and low compression
B. Could use the money to build the head where the LS has its weak points
C. Have an outrageous amount more torque and the motor stays mostly oem
down the line i think you'd be more satisfied.
I see ALL the time oem bottom to top boosted 300whp LS builds.
I know you can find LS swaps these days for under 1k. Sell that y8 swap for pretty much half the money and replace a few parts on the LS and start from there.
This is just a suggestion and in no way bashing all the sohc freaks on this forum. I think before you jump into a boosted build you should look at it from all aspects. B16's and B18a/b's are going severaly down in price due to all the people wanting the B18c's which have skyrocket'd
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Re: (Stupid EK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stupid EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know you can find LS swaps these days for under 1k. </TD></TR></TABLE>
tell me where!
tell me where!
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Re: (Ragecloak)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stupid EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO...your just wasting money on a sohc where there better options...
my reasoning to why an dohc is mandatory...
even if you went with an LS swap...which already has lower compression...
You'd
A. Have more displacement and low compression
B. Could use the money to build the head where the LS has its weak points
C. Have an outrageous amount more torque and the motor stays mostly oem
down the line i think you'd be more satisfied.
I see ALL the time oem bottom to top boosted 300whp LS builds.
I know you can find LS swaps these days for under 1k. Sell that y8 swap for pretty much half the money and replace a few parts on the LS and start from there.
This is just a suggestion and in no way bashing all the sohc freaks on this forum. I think before you jump into a boosted build you should look at it from all aspects. B16's and B18a/b's are going severaly down in price due to all the people wanting the B18c's which have skyrocket'd</TD></TR></TABLE>
He already said he didn't want to go DOHC. Don't try and change his mind. A single cam turbo can be A LOT of fun. He'll have his turbo already, but if he installed a DOHC he'll have to save for the turbo. A built single cam can be just as fast, probably faster, than a stock turbo DOHC.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmchop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
20 lbs on wat a t25 or gt47r?
ditch the y8 and get a z6
z6 is much better
use obd1 oil pump </TD></TR></TABLE>
Didn't know what turbo I was going to use. I wanted to get the flow numbers from my head/intake manifold before I decided what turbo. Oh and I was going to modify the y8 oil pump. The reason I was staying with the y8 was because well, I was going to say smog but that was out of window the second I put a turbo on it.
my reasoning to why an dohc is mandatory...
even if you went with an LS swap...which already has lower compression...
You'd
A. Have more displacement and low compression
B. Could use the money to build the head where the LS has its weak points
C. Have an outrageous amount more torque and the motor stays mostly oem
down the line i think you'd be more satisfied.
I see ALL the time oem bottom to top boosted 300whp LS builds.
I know you can find LS swaps these days for under 1k. Sell that y8 swap for pretty much half the money and replace a few parts on the LS and start from there.
This is just a suggestion and in no way bashing all the sohc freaks on this forum. I think before you jump into a boosted build you should look at it from all aspects. B16's and B18a/b's are going severaly down in price due to all the people wanting the B18c's which have skyrocket'd</TD></TR></TABLE>
He already said he didn't want to go DOHC. Don't try and change his mind. A single cam turbo can be A LOT of fun. He'll have his turbo already, but if he installed a DOHC he'll have to save for the turbo. A built single cam can be just as fast, probably faster, than a stock turbo DOHC.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmchop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
20 lbs on wat a t25 or gt47r?
ditch the y8 and get a z6
z6 is much better
use obd1 oil pump </TD></TR></TABLE>
Didn't know what turbo I was going to use. I wanted to get the flow numbers from my head/intake manifold before I decided what turbo. Oh and I was going to modify the y8 oil pump. The reason I was staying with the y8 was because well, I was going to say smog but that was out of window the second I put a turbo on it.
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Re: (jdmchop)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
He already said he didn't want to go DOHC. Don't try and change his mind. A single cam turbo can be A LOT of fun. He'll have his turbo already, but if he installed a DOHC he'll have to save for the turbo. A built single cam can be just as fast, probably faster, than a stock turbo DOHC.
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This is a technical forum.....Opinions will be formed...user beware
...i was being so nice about this...i understand he doesn't want to swap...but all i said was...why throw money in the pisser if there are better alternate route's...yes i'm sure sohc ninja power is sooo badass...i wouldn't know but every sohc ***** on here has told me....but i just believe that any dohc turbo would run over a sohc turbo stock for stock...your trying to compare a built for boost sohc against my stock dohc....its not happening..so...as for this thread since we can stay on topic....
yes when i had my sohc a couple years back and i was reaseaching i heard the Z6 has the best of all worlds.... I've heard the y8's rod knock very easily under strain b/c of oil pump starvation...i've also heard the z6 head with y8 intake mani is a top notch set-up as well... GL on your build....and i wish you the best of times
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Re: (Stupid EK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stupid EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is a technical forum.....Opinions will be formed...user beware ...i was being so nice about this...i understand he doesn't want to swap...but all i said was...why throw money in the pisser if there are better alternate route's...yes i'm sure sohc ninja power is sooo badass...i wouldn't know but every sohc ***** on here has told me....but i just believe that any dohc turbo would run over a sohc turbo stock for stock...your trying to compare a built for boost sohc against my stock dohc....its not happening..
so...as for this thread since we can stay on topic....
yes when i had my sohc a couple years back and i was reaseaching i heard the Z6 has the best of all worlds.... I've heard the y8's rod knock very easily under strain b/c of oil pump starvation...i've also heard the z6 head with y8 intake mani is a top notch set-up as well... GL on your build....and i wish you the best of times </TD></TR></TABLE>
ok, so let think about this. fully built sohc price in parts $1200, plus boost parts $1200 <-- including dyno tune, 300whp easily..... now take that $2200 and apply it to an LS $2200 swap, oh no, that leaves $200, so you get a header, and have what 118whp.... lets just say you got a hell of a deal on the LS and paid $1000 for it, then $1200 for boost, what kind of power you gonna put on a stock LS bottom end, around 300whp is safe. so IF you got a hell of a deal on an LS its a better option, but then you have to add in time/labor for the swap, downtime swapping, etc.... most people that stick w/ the D do it because its already there. anybody that says they want to stay D because its differant is lying to themselves, its very popular now to boost a D.
This is a technical forum.....Opinions will be formed...user beware
...i was being so nice about this...i understand he doesn't want to swap...but all i said was...why throw money in the pisser if there are better alternate route's...yes i'm sure sohc ninja power is sooo badass...i wouldn't know but every sohc ***** on here has told me....but i just believe that any dohc turbo would run over a sohc turbo stock for stock...your trying to compare a built for boost sohc against my stock dohc....its not happening..so...as for this thread since we can stay on topic....
yes when i had my sohc a couple years back and i was reaseaching i heard the Z6 has the best of all worlds.... I've heard the y8's rod knock very easily under strain b/c of oil pump starvation...i've also heard the z6 head with y8 intake mani is a top notch set-up as well... GL on your build....and i wish you the best of times
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok, so let think about this. fully built sohc price in parts $1200, plus boost parts $1200 <-- including dyno tune, 300whp easily..... now take that $2200 and apply it to an LS $2200 swap, oh no, that leaves $200, so you get a header, and have what 118whp.... lets just say you got a hell of a deal on the LS and paid $1000 for it, then $1200 for boost, what kind of power you gonna put on a stock LS bottom end, around 300whp is safe. so IF you got a hell of a deal on an LS its a better option, but then you have to add in time/labor for the swap, downtime swapping, etc.... most people that stick w/ the D do it because its already there. anybody that says they want to stay D because its differant is lying to themselves, its very popular now to boost a D.
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Re: (jdmchop)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmchop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if your moding the pump
but get a z6 head, stock they flow better than a ported y8
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oh contrair. I believe you've got that backwards. Besides, why would honda have built the Y8 if the Z6 was better?
but get a z6 head, stock they flow better than a ported y8
</TD></TR></TABLE>oh contrair. I believe you've got that backwards. Besides, why would honda have built the Y8 if the Z6 was better?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnecon2001 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh contrair. I believe you've got that backwards. Besides, why would honda have built the Y8 if the Z6 was better?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no i think you do
no i think you do
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