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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 07:55 AM
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Default toda cam or spoon ???

i'm going to buy a camshaft but which one is better, for both price and increase HP
if toda i'm thinking going for spec B, coz ppl told me spec C most likely my engine cannot handle it, spec C is more likely for racing. and i saw spoon camshaft on the internet but dont know is it's better then spec B Toda??
which one should i go for ?
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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From what i've been told the Spec B's are the way to go.. C's are way to hot for an internally stock motor.

Spoon's are relatively mild so i'm told..
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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Default Re: toda cam or spoon ??? (Alex McHenry)

Bs are a little hot for a stock motor as well. If you go with Bs, you will need more compression to make them run their best. Although Vegeta got 196 out of Bs on a stock bottom end.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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You tell em Matt hahahaha C's ALL THE WAY FOR ME
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 12:33 PM
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when did he get 196. he got 190 when i was then with the b's and that was w/o the PS belt
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 12:37 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 01:19 PM
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I think vegeta went back for another round of tuning and got 196.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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Default Re: toda cam or spoon ??? (Rob1035)

so no one is recommand for spoon camshaft ??
toda all the way ????????????
with just spec B vegita hit 190whp?? i didnt know cam gives this much HP, or is it with some other mods as well ?
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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I think vegeta had like a port and polished head, a toda header, comptech ice box, and some 2.5 inch cat-back.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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Default Re: toda cam or spoon ??? (StinkyTofu)

with spec B, do you guys change the valve spring ? or just use the factory one ..
i've read toda's website it says require but does it ? also after install is it require addtion campully to be add? should i get aem or toda's ? also for those who have it installed. did you tune your car on dyno ? is it required ?? sorry for all these stupid questions
finally how much will i be looking for with toda spec B, toda adjustable campully, and dyno tune, in CANADIAN dollars??
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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Default Re: toda cam or spoon ??? (GettaluvR)

Toda B's
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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the spoon cams offered to us in the USA are very mild, even milder than Toda A's i believe.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:33 PM
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Noper, I think Toda A's are just a touch milder thatn Spoonie. My question is, Spoonie or Toda A's?
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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Don't take this the wrong way, but judging from the questions you are asking, such as "do I need to tune spec bs on a dyno, and "can I use stock valvesprings with spec bs", I definitely do not think these are the right cams for you. If you are hellbent on getting some aftermarket cams, I would suggest toda As for your setup. And yes, you still need to tune them on the dyno..............
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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toda!!!



SgT's dyno of A's with different tunings.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=163958


[Modified by Rob1035, 10:41 PM 4/14/2002]
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 12:46 AM
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Spoon are very reliable
but what is your goal , if you compare Toda A and spoon there almost the same , i believe that spoon has more duration then the Toda spec A .
but if you want more gains then that go with Toda B's you need more to make them work properly but you'll have some nice gains .
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 02:37 AM
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Just get the Spec B, you will love it. For the same amount of money, why spend it on something that will give you less power. If you worry about idle, just get the JUN 3.
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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Well I can think of several reasons. For one, he might not have access to a good tuner. Secondly, he might not like changing his timing belt every 30k miles. Idle, fuel economy, etc................
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