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Old May 25, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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I started up my b16A1 engine today for the first time in my Ed9. (D16A9 original engine)

Starter cranked over just fine and it started after a few turns.

After 15-20 secs of running the engine died. (ran just fine without any signs of problems)

now the starter will not crank at all.
The main relay clicks but the starter doesnt respond.

I've checked the voltage on the cable from the ignition and it gives 1 volt. Approx.

From the connection just by the engine bay fusebox the voltage is 7 volts from the ignition and 1 volt to the starter.

So, do i have to change the entire wire? Or does the problem lie elsewere?

any suggestions?
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Old May 25, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Most likely it's your ignition, you can set up a relay off your ignition to switch power straight from the battery to the starter. Try jumping power from the positive battery post to the starter(where ignition wire plugs into it) it should start.
Could also be some frayed wires or something both those voltages are low, but try what I said.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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I've tried jumping it. But still wouldnt crank.
I think the problem might lie within my batteri relocation cable.

I will try mounting the battery up front with the original cables tomorrow.

Any other suggestions will be appreciated.

Cheers
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Old May 28, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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If you jump the starter and it does not crank your starters bad, either the solenoid or the motor, or your batterys just too dead to crank it
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Old May 28, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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i'd check the starter solenoid mines gone bad on me before
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Old May 28, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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yea check your battery then your starter if your battery is good and the starter still wont crank its probably locked up in that case take a hammer or a hard object and giv it a modest swing to c if it unlocks.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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I would say its the main relay.

If it was the battery cables the car would not just die, the battery light would come first off the car would just not die and shut off, unless the cables shorted out which I doubt.

Now a relay will warm up and get hot and after awhile the solder points crack and break, causing the car either just to crank and crank and crank and never catch, or causing the car not even to turn over.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CLE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most likely it's your ignition, </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you talking about the ignition switch or the ignition as in distributor, I don't think it has anything to do with the distributor area, because that would not prevent the car from cranking. Now the ignition switch is a different story.

But the main relay sometimes will have the same symptoms of a bad ignition switch.

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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Ignition switch of course, not the coil (jumping the staarter bypasses the switch signal) that's why I said to do that to test
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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check your grounds if u have a loose ground itll die and if it remains loose it wont crank.check the one by the main relay valve cover and thermostat
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by viciousvisionslarry &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check your grounds if u have a loose ground itll die and if it remains loose it wont crank.check the one by the main relay valve cover and thermostat</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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yea i had the same problem with my car, i checked the grounds, turned out i was missing my tranny ground, you should have a ground on your valve cover, your tranny and your thermostat housing also when you installed did you use your original harness or did you use a b16a1 harness.... if you used your b16a1 harness you will need to use your stock harness for the b16a1 and your stock harness have wires on the wrong sides
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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is the ecu putting any codes out? if not check all ur fuse under dash. one could have blew. if the ecu has no codes than the fuel pump wont work and it wont run. i would check every fuse befor going any farther.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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apparently its working now?
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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yes. starter is working.

Got a new problem now. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1653717
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 03:25 AM
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what was wrong with it that the starter wasnt working
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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electrical issues.
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