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Old May 16, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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Default Stock factory alarms - are they better?

For example: 2006 Accord EX has a standard factory security system and engine immobilizer.

Not the chip thing that the dealer try to sell.

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1. Are they better than most alarms?
2. Are they wire better because they come from the factory? And not just some under the dash job?
3. Overall, with the immobilizer, is this good protection? Where I don't need to consider an aftermarket unit.

I know nothing is even 99%, is the factory security system good enough?
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Old May 16, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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No, they're not "better".

If you live in the middle of nowhere then the standard alarm will probably be good enough for you.

However, a factory alarm only responds when a door is opened. Sometimes the trunk is tied in, and rarely the hood is monitored.

Factory alarms do not have 2-way paging options, nor do they generally include a shock sensor.

You cannot usually upgrade a factory alarm to add additional sirens, or other types of sensors (motion or glass breakage).

If you think that you'll feel secure with "good enough", then by all means, keep the factory alarm.

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Old May 16, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Ok, they may not have all the features. But are they wire better?

I'm asking because I read that they (experts) said that the installation is the key. That is more important than the alarm itself. A $5 kill switch done right offers more protection than a $200 alarm done wrong.

Most shops will take the easy route and install in under the left dash. But "expert installation" installing this here, and that there, so when this happens, that will happen.

Therefore, because the alarm is installed by the factory, while the car may still be wide open, do they (Honda) do a better job than just slaping it under the left dash?
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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, they may not have all the features. But are they wire better?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not necessarily. With the exception of the '96-'98 Civic, the security module is usually right up under the dash. The first models of the 6th gen Civic used a secuirity module that mounted right on top (well, actually it nestled in the top of) the factory radio...
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Old May 17, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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All import factory alarms that I know of either have a bright green plug or are otherwise very obvious especially to thieves that are specifically targeting that type of vehicle.

It's not hard to make your alarm wiring look oem just by using split loom and black tape.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Default Re: Stock factory alarms - are they better? (GoLowDrew)

A 2006 Honda Accord has a computer chip built into the key itself. If the ring around the ignition cylinder does not see that chip the car will not start at all. You have to realize though that no matter what you do to your car if someone wants to steal it bad enough, they will deffinatley get it.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Do you live in newark, nj??? cause thats the stolen car capital .. i think

immboilizer and alarms are theft deterants...

they take longer to bypass....

honda immobliziers are built into the ecu... if they(theifs) have their own ecu, just swap em.. car is good to go...

if u do your own custom install.. with layered kill switches... thats better... but sometimes you can't hear your alarm go off.. thus the reason for 2 way paging...

also your car isn't going to tell you if its being towed without a 2 way pager and a tilt sensor....
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Old May 18, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Default Re: Stock factory alarms - are they better? (GoLowDrew)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoLowDrew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For example: 2006 Accord EX has a standard factory security system and engine immobilizer.

Not the chip thing that the dealer try to sell.

Questions:

1. Are they better than most alarms?
2. Are they wire better because they come from the factory? And not just some under the dash job?
3. Overall, with the immobilizer, is this good protection? Where I don't need to consider an aftermarket unit.

I know nothing is even 99%, is the factory security system good enough?</TD></TR></TABLE>

1- They are better then a lot of alarms.

2- Wiring is better, as it is integrated with the cars wiring.

3- Overall it is good protection, [better then not having it]

As has been mentioned, you can definitely improve on the oem alarm, [the immobilizer is as good as it gets, and is not part of the alarm].

There is an advantage to having a good 2way alarm, and a duel stage impact sensor is a huge improvement over not having one.

I would add an aftermarket alarm, [maybe a Compustar 2way] interface it with the oem alarm, [arming and disarming aftermarket alarm also arms/disarms oem alarm]

Should be a clean install as most connections will/can be made at oem alarm harness, an added feature is the starter/ign. cut output on the aftermarket alarm can be used for anything, [cut power to the fuel injectors] just in case the crook has his own ign. switch and harness, programed key and ECU. 94
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Stock factory alarms - are they better? (GoLowDrew)

If you want to get the alarm installed right then go to a decent shop. Honda usually hires people that come in and do it on the side. Usually they have a very time restricting schedule. They get paid to put the most alarms out in an allotted time. If you live in or near maryland then you can come to the best buy shop in glen burnie. Our alarms are done right. We all have been to DEI's snake pit.
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