96 type specs
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96 type specs
like the title says. anyone know where i can get 96 type specs. it's obviously only sold in japan. however i have the 4 lug conversion and probably going to do a couple things specific to the 4 lug conversion. so if anyone can point me to info on the 96 itr that'd be great thnks.
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Re: 96 type specs (cypressink)
98 Spec JDM V's 96 Spec JDM (Taken from Type R Legends DVD)
I have listed the differences between the 96-98 Spec JDM ITR's below, as taken from BMI's Type R Legends DVD. As you can see it is quite long so you may not want to read it all. Please bare in mind that this is Japanese translated into American, I have changed some of the more obvious facts into UK English and that it is BMI information not mine, so if you don't agree with the facts complain to them....
This list does not include all the Track Battles and extras on the ITR that are on the DVD so I recommend a purchase!!!
1. HID lights on 98 Spec (added weight, but improved night visibility)
2. Wheels
96 Spec 195/55/15 4 stud (12.3lbs each)
98 Spec 215/45/16 5 stud (16lbs each)
3. Brake Discs enlarged:
98SpecFront 282mm Rear 250mm
96Spec Front 262mm, Rear 240mm
4. Front Suspension - Modified to increase cornering speeds after extensive testing on the circuit.
96 Spec
Spring rate (KGf/MM) 4.4
Damper (KGf) (Full) 245
(short) 161
Anti Roll Bar (inches) 0.94
98 Spec
Spring rate (KGf/MM) 4.5
Damper (KGf) (Full) 231
(short) 142
Anti Roll Bar (inches) 0.98
5. Rear Suspension
96 Spec
Spring rate (KGf/MM) 4.4
Damper (KGf) (Full) 118
(short) 70
Anti Roll Bar (inches) 0.87
98 Spec
Spring rate (KGf/MM) 4.5
Damper (KGf) (Full) 100
(short) 59
Anti Roll Bar (inches) 0.91
This seems to indicate that Honda decided to increase the stiffness of the spring slightly but decrease the dampening of the shocks. Also the anti roll/sway bars were thickened.
98spec rear ARB 23mm
96spec rear ARB 22mm
the 98spec front sway bar also increased in size by 1mm (i think)
6. The 98 spec engine was equiped with an all stainless steel manifold giving the engine more torque at lower revs.
96 Spec - 200 ps @ 8000 rpm
18.5kgm @ 7200 rpm
98 Spec - 200 ps @ 8000 rpm
19kgm @ 6200 rpm
7. Other Specs
96 Spec
Height (inches) 52
Rear Track (inches) 57.9
Weight 1060kgs
ABS Option
Airbag Option
98 Spec
Height (inches) 52.4
Rear Track (inches) 58.5
Weight 1100kgs
ABS Standard
Airbag Standard
8. Engine Internals (Enlargement of the thrust bearings, Ports, and Valve Seals) were machined by hand until late 96 spec engines. When it came to improving this process further it took to long by hand, so the engineers were replaced by machines.......
Late 96 spec and 98 spec engine internals were machined by specialist machines that produced work that was so good it was impossible to match by hand.....
9. Quarter mile race between the two models with gearbox ratios as described above....
Gear Ratios
96 Spec
1st - 3.230
2nd - 2.105
3rd - 1.458
4th - 1.107
5th - 0.848
Final 4.4
98 spec
1st - 3.230
2nd - 2.105
3rd - 1.458
4th - 1.034
5th - 0.787
Final 4.785
This all means that 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear are shorter in the 98 Spec (due to the closer ration of the Final drive), but 4th and 5th are wider for top speed...... (i.e. 4th and 5th in the 96 Spec are closer for acceleration, which is why the 96 Spec pull the 98 Spec back in 4th gear in the 1/4 mile)
10. Braking test from about 95 mph
96 Spec (non ABS) - 269.7 ft
98 Spec (ABS and larger discs) - 230.3 ft
11. Circuit Battle (in postion order with lap times)
1. 98 Spec Integra - 1.09.16
2. MR2 G liimted (200ps non turbo) - 1.09.57
3. Celica (T-Sport?) - 1.09.65
4. FTO (Version R?) - 1.10.14
5. Miata - 1.13.45
6. BMW Z3 - 1.13.94
Driver comments - It a stable ride.... There is only a slight improvement in quickness, but the brakes and tires really contribute to the stable lap times.....Its a driver friendly car.... I guess the gear ration has some demerits at top acceleration.... but the 1st 2nd and 3rd gears match the circuit. (1st 2nd and 3rd are shorter on the 98 spec, but 4th and 5th are wider for top speed....) The new ITR (98 spec) is a fine car.....
The ITR is great for low and mid speed courses.... older ITR's had problems with the 1st and 2nd hairpins you couldn't rev the engine enogh for those corners.... but now the second gear is a perfect match
12 Endurance race
The 96 Spec ITR is raced (earlier on) in the Endurance race and it wins on lap consistancy.
The 98 spec ITR is raced in the endurance race (not sure who won this one), the oil temp goes through the roof.... cut to Spoon who say when their cars are on track they use Stock Honda Logo oil filters which fit but are smaller and prevent oil pressure fluctuation (preventing warping of the oil filter case). They also put baffles in the sump and heat tape between the exhaust manifold and the sump to further prevent the oil pressure fluctuating. They also use steel gaskets and steel banding around their oil filters on their racing cars....
Spoon then go on to suggest that if youre driving a 96 Spec ITR with over 60,000 miles (on track I presume) when rebuilding the engine also change the raer suspension arm to a 98 spec (or 2000 spec) version for a milder ride and easier handling. All bushes are compatible between 96 spec, 98 spec and 2000 spec so go for the latest you can get.... before making major mods Spoon recomend changing these small parts to enjoy the circuit more first....
13. 2000 spec ITR differences (ITR-x)
The drive shafts, hubs and bearing have all been syncronised (machined!?!) for better movement, which is the kind of precision work Honda have been doing for the past year or so... (The DVD came out in 2001)
I have listed the differences between the 96-98 Spec JDM ITR's below, as taken from BMI's Type R Legends DVD. As you can see it is quite long so you may not want to read it all. Please bare in mind that this is Japanese translated into American, I have changed some of the more obvious facts into UK English and that it is BMI information not mine, so if you don't agree with the facts complain to them....
This list does not include all the Track Battles and extras on the ITR that are on the DVD so I recommend a purchase!!!
1. HID lights on 98 Spec (added weight, but improved night visibility)
2. Wheels
96 Spec 195/55/15 4 stud (12.3lbs each)
98 Spec 215/45/16 5 stud (16lbs each)
3. Brake Discs enlarged:
98SpecFront 282mm Rear 250mm
96Spec Front 262mm, Rear 240mm
4. Front Suspension - Modified to increase cornering speeds after extensive testing on the circuit.
96 Spec
Spring rate (KGf/MM) 4.4
Damper (KGf) (Full) 245
(short) 161
Anti Roll Bar (inches) 0.94
98 Spec
Spring rate (KGf/MM) 4.5
Damper (KGf) (Full) 231
(short) 142
Anti Roll Bar (inches) 0.98
5. Rear Suspension
96 Spec
Spring rate (KGf/MM) 4.4
Damper (KGf) (Full) 118
(short) 70
Anti Roll Bar (inches) 0.87
98 Spec
Spring rate (KGf/MM) 4.5
Damper (KGf) (Full) 100
(short) 59
Anti Roll Bar (inches) 0.91
This seems to indicate that Honda decided to increase the stiffness of the spring slightly but decrease the dampening of the shocks. Also the anti roll/sway bars were thickened.
98spec rear ARB 23mm
96spec rear ARB 22mm
the 98spec front sway bar also increased in size by 1mm (i think)
6. The 98 spec engine was equiped with an all stainless steel manifold giving the engine more torque at lower revs.
96 Spec - 200 ps @ 8000 rpm
18.5kgm @ 7200 rpm
98 Spec - 200 ps @ 8000 rpm
19kgm @ 6200 rpm
7. Other Specs
96 Spec
Height (inches) 52
Rear Track (inches) 57.9
Weight 1060kgs
ABS Option
Airbag Option
98 Spec
Height (inches) 52.4
Rear Track (inches) 58.5
Weight 1100kgs
ABS Standard
Airbag Standard
8. Engine Internals (Enlargement of the thrust bearings, Ports, and Valve Seals) were machined by hand until late 96 spec engines. When it came to improving this process further it took to long by hand, so the engineers were replaced by machines.......
Late 96 spec and 98 spec engine internals were machined by specialist machines that produced work that was so good it was impossible to match by hand.....
9. Quarter mile race between the two models with gearbox ratios as described above....
Gear Ratios
96 Spec
1st - 3.230
2nd - 2.105
3rd - 1.458
4th - 1.107
5th - 0.848
Final 4.4
98 spec
1st - 3.230
2nd - 2.105
3rd - 1.458
4th - 1.034
5th - 0.787
Final 4.785
This all means that 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear are shorter in the 98 Spec (due to the closer ration of the Final drive), but 4th and 5th are wider for top speed...... (i.e. 4th and 5th in the 96 Spec are closer for acceleration, which is why the 96 Spec pull the 98 Spec back in 4th gear in the 1/4 mile)
10. Braking test from about 95 mph
96 Spec (non ABS) - 269.7 ft
98 Spec (ABS and larger discs) - 230.3 ft
11. Circuit Battle (in postion order with lap times)
1. 98 Spec Integra - 1.09.16
2. MR2 G liimted (200ps non turbo) - 1.09.57
3. Celica (T-Sport?) - 1.09.65
4. FTO (Version R?) - 1.10.14
5. Miata - 1.13.45
6. BMW Z3 - 1.13.94
Driver comments - It a stable ride.... There is only a slight improvement in quickness, but the brakes and tires really contribute to the stable lap times.....Its a driver friendly car.... I guess the gear ration has some demerits at top acceleration.... but the 1st 2nd and 3rd gears match the circuit. (1st 2nd and 3rd are shorter on the 98 spec, but 4th and 5th are wider for top speed....) The new ITR (98 spec) is a fine car.....
The ITR is great for low and mid speed courses.... older ITR's had problems with the 1st and 2nd hairpins you couldn't rev the engine enogh for those corners.... but now the second gear is a perfect match
12 Endurance race
The 96 Spec ITR is raced (earlier on) in the Endurance race and it wins on lap consistancy.
The 98 spec ITR is raced in the endurance race (not sure who won this one), the oil temp goes through the roof.... cut to Spoon who say when their cars are on track they use Stock Honda Logo oil filters which fit but are smaller and prevent oil pressure fluctuation (preventing warping of the oil filter case). They also put baffles in the sump and heat tape between the exhaust manifold and the sump to further prevent the oil pressure fluctuating. They also use steel gaskets and steel banding around their oil filters on their racing cars....
Spoon then go on to suggest that if youre driving a 96 Spec ITR with over 60,000 miles (on track I presume) when rebuilding the engine also change the raer suspension arm to a 98 spec (or 2000 spec) version for a milder ride and easier handling. All bushes are compatible between 96 spec, 98 spec and 2000 spec so go for the latest you can get.... before making major mods Spoon recomend changing these small parts to enjoy the circuit more first....
13. 2000 spec ITR differences (ITR-x)
The drive shafts, hubs and bearing have all been syncronised (machined!?!) for better movement, which is the kind of precision work Honda have been doing for the past year or so... (The DVD came out in 2001)
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