well its was a long day for me...just finished pushing my car off a flat bed a minute ago....as the titel says my timing belt ripped...i believe i bent some valves...my question is what can i do with $300? i got the water pump, timing belt, and tensioner already and i know i need new valves and maybe a new valve guide but what else should i buy since the head is removed from the block...i have a b16a and i just want to know what is your opinion if your were in my shoes!


Modified by akitomoto at 5:07 AM 5/8/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akitomoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well its was a long day for me...just finished pushing my car off a flat bed a minute ago....as the titel says my timing melt ripped...i believe i bent some valves...my question is what can i do with $300? i got the water pump, timing belt, and tensioner already and i know i need new valves and maybe a new valve guide but what else should i buy since the head is removed from the block...i have a b16a and i just want to know what is your opinion if your were in my shoes! </TD></TR></TABLE>

k20a2

 

... you cant get a k20a for $300 unless you stealing it

you probably need new pistons too

got to pull the head and c heck whats all damaged

 

300 bucks left... throw some used cams in there from someone... get some more power while its out...

 

why did it melt? When was the last time u changed it? If it wasn't 90k+ ago, u might want to find out why it melted...

 

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i think he ment "belt"

 

lol you know one of my buddy said the same thing get a k20! lol man im so broke right now still have to pay off my turbo kit...i corrected my grammer its belt not melt...lol

 

you will need all the stuff to do the head including head gasket, coolant, oil, filter, etc. other than that just pray the pistons arent Fed.

 

maybe if your very very lucky, you might have not messed anything up. hey, it has happen before, you never know just open and check it out.

 

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LMAO

 

first do a leakdown test...if you bent valves then it won't hold compression. If it holds compression just put a new t-belt and water pump on.....also go ahead and replace the cam seals and crank seal.

if it doesn't hold compression buy new valves, valve guides, and valve seals.....take it to a machine shop and have them put it all together.

When the head is off you will be able to tell whether or not you messed up the pistons.

 

well took the valve cover off and i notice my my valves are all up....took some pix to see what you guys think

 

time to swap a D series in there

 

they still could be slightly bent.

If you don't have access to a leak down tester then just put a new timing belt on there and time everything right and try to run it.

****make sure the pistons are half-way down/up, then you can turn the cams all you want. ( to get them to tdc)

 

check the pistons... hopefully they didn't scar them up too bad

 

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usually the pistons win in a piston vs valves fight. I would be a little more concerned about my valves...

 

 

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usually the pistons win in a piston vs valves fight. I would be a little more concerned about my valves...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it appears you twisted the valves....and from all the other crap, looks like u'll need to rebuild the head (and replace a lot of parts.. I might add)...

 

well i have 2 options either rebuild the whole head how i want it (about $600-800) or swap a b18b or b20b engine (about $700) right now on the car its a boosted b16a and i was just wondering if i should stay with the b16a or go for a bigger engine with no vtec what you guys think?

 

right now it doesent matter if it is vtec or not.. u need a motor in ur car to drive it..
if u r fine with not haveing a car, then save up for a motor..... but i would get the cheapest b series i could get....

 

Why did you not show us a picture of the combustion chambers and the piston tops?

 

well im gonna a compression test b4 i take the head out will keep you guys posted

 

fix the timing, do a compression test.

if the head is bad, have the bent valves replaced at a head shop ($120 labor + valves) might as well rebuild the entire head with new stem seals (about $300 bucks a most shops)

replace head gasket and head bolts, better yet switch to ARP studs.

DO NOT REUSE THE STOCK BOLTS EVAR!!!11!1!one!

 

i just did that last week on my type r motor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akitomoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i have 2 options either rebuild the whole head how i want it (about $600-800) or swap a b18b or b20b engine (about $700) right now on the car its a boosted b16a and i was just wondering if i should stay with the b16a or go for a bigger engine with no vtec what you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>

B20z2 IDEAL, second to that, B20B, i would prolly swap your intake manifold, throttle body etc onto it. Later, make it a B20 VTEC, in the end, you will be smoking your old motor.