Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

MY TIMING BELT RIPPED!!!!!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-07-2006, 11:04 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
BrothaSit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rockford, IL
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default MY TIMING BELT RIPPED!!!!!!!!

well its was a long day for me...just finished pushing my car off a flat bed a minute ago....as the titel says my timing belt ripped...i believe i bent some valves...my question is what can i do with $300? i got the water pump, timing belt, and tensioner already and i know i need new valves and maybe a new valve guide but what else should i buy since the head is removed from the block...i have a b16a and i just want to know what is your opinion if your were in my shoes!


Modified by akitomoto at 5:07 AM 5/8/2006
Old 05-07-2006, 11:09 PM
  #2  
 
professor poon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: MY TIMING BELT RIPPED!!!!!!!! (akitomoto)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akitomoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well its was a long day for me...just finished pushing my car off a flat bed a minute ago....as the titel says my timing melt ripped...i believe i bent some valves...my question is what can i do with $300? i got the water pump, timing belt, and tensioner already and i know i need new valves and maybe a new valve guide but what else should i buy since the head is removed from the block...i have a b16a and i just want to know what is your opinion if your were in my shoes! </TD></TR></TABLE>

k20a2
Old 05-07-2006, 11:14 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
komat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: morgantown, wv, usa
Posts: 4,721
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: MY TIMING BELT RIPPED!!!!!!!! (professor poon)

... you cant get a k20a for $300 unless you stealing it

you probably need new pistons too

got to pull the head and c heck whats all damaged
Old 05-08-2006, 12:44 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
B18C1SI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 2,697
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: MY TIMING BELT RIPPED!!!!!!!! (komat)

300 bucks left... throw some used cams in there from someone... get some more power while its out...
Old 05-08-2006, 02:16 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Syndacate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rochester, New York -> Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 10,443
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

why did it melt? When was the last time u changed it? If it wasn't 90k+ ago, u might want to find out why it melted...
Old 05-08-2006, 03:35 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
RATED EG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: in the hatch
Posts: 1,605
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Syndacate)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why did it melt? When was the last time u changed it? If it wasn't 90k+ ago, u might want to find out why it melted...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think he ment "belt"
Old 05-08-2006, 04:09 AM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
BrothaSit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rockford, IL
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

lol you know one of my buddy said the same thing get a k20! lol man im so broke right now still have to pay off my turbo kit...i corrected my grammer its belt not melt...lol
Old 05-08-2006, 05:03 AM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
 
schardbody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ladson, sc, US
Posts: 4,338
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

you will need all the stuff to do the head including head gasket, coolant, oil, filter, etc. other than that just pray the pistons arent Fed.
Old 05-08-2006, 07:26 AM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
LilCivic04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: champaign, il, usa
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (schardbody)

maybe if your very very lucky, you might have not messed anything up. hey, it has happen before, you never know just open and check it out.
Old 05-08-2006, 01:49 PM
  #10  
 
professor poon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (akitomoto)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akitomoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i corrected my grammer</TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO
Old 05-08-2006, 02:59 PM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
thehatchninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Columbia, SC, USA
Posts: 4,681
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

first do a leakdown test...if you bent valves then it won't hold compression. If it holds compression just put a new t-belt and water pump on.....also go ahead and replace the cam seals and crank seal.

if it doesn't hold compression buy new valves, valve guides, and valve seals.....take it to a machine shop and have them put it all together.

When the head is off you will be able to tell whether or not you messed up the pistons.
Old 05-09-2006, 08:09 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
BrothaSit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rockford, IL
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

well took the valve cover off and i notice my my valves are all up....took some pix to see what you guys think


Old 05-09-2006, 09:31 PM
  #13  
Member
 
The Internet Tough Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: usa
Posts: 3,528
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (akitomoto)

time to swap a D series in there
Old 05-10-2006, 03:21 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
thehatchninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Columbia, SC, USA
Posts: 4,681
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

they still could be slightly bent.

If you don't have access to a leak down tester then just put a new timing belt on there and time everything right and try to run it.

****make sure the pistons are half-way down/up, then you can turn the cams all you want. ( to get them to tdc)
Old 05-10-2006, 03:50 PM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
igo4bmx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: SOHC LAND, XX
Posts: 4,810
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

check the pistons... hopefully they didn't scar them up too bad
Old 05-10-2006, 09:41 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
JeffBro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 1,068
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (igo4bmx)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check the pistons... hopefully they didn't scar them up too bad </TD></TR></TABLE>

usually the pistons win in a piston vs valves fight. I would be a little more concerned about my valves...
Old 05-10-2006, 09:54 PM
  #17  
 
B18C EG2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Home Of The Players And PIMPS, IN, united states
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (JeffBro)

Old 05-11-2006, 02:20 AM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Syndacate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rochester, New York -> Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 10,443
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: (JeffBro)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffBro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

usually the pistons win in a piston vs valves fight. I would be a little more concerned about my valves...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it appears you twisted the valves....and from all the other crap, looks like u'll need to rebuild the head (and replace a lot of parts.. I might add)...
Old 05-11-2006, 01:34 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
BrothaSit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rockford, IL
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

well i have 2 options either rebuild the whole head how i want it (about $600-800) or swap a b18b or b20b engine (about $700) right now on the car its a boosted b16a and i was just wondering if i should stay with the b16a or go for a bigger engine with no vtec what you guys think?
Old 05-11-2006, 01:48 PM
  #20  
 
JdmLub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Northwest
Posts: 260
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (akitomoto)

right now it doesent matter if it is vtec or not.. u need a motor in ur car to drive it..
if u r fine with not haveing a car, then save up for a motor..... but i would get the cheapest b series i could get....
Old 05-11-2006, 01:49 PM
  #21  
Unceasing Measure
 
Archidictus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 13,087
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: (akitomoto)

Why did you not show us a picture of the combustion chambers and the piston tops?
Old 05-11-2006, 08:41 PM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
BrothaSit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rockford, IL
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

well im gonna a compression test b4 i take the head out will keep you guys posted
Old 05-11-2006, 10:30 PM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Sketch_hs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Elk Grove, CA, USA
Posts: 3,273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

fix the timing, do a compression test.

if the head is bad, have the bent valves replaced at a head shop ($120 labor + valves) might as well rebuild the entire head with new stem seals (about $300 bucks a most shops)

replace head gasket and head bolts, better yet switch to ARP studs.

DO NOT REUSE THE STOCK BOLTS EVAR!!!11!1!one!
Old 05-11-2006, 11:04 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
sirrjibbalott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: orange county, CA, USA
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: MY TIMING BELT RIPPED!!!!!!!! (akitomoto)

i just did that last week on my type r motor
Old 05-12-2006, 01:03 AM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Defile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Miami, FL, US
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (akitomoto)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akitomoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i have 2 options either rebuild the whole head how i want it (about $600-800) or swap a b18b or b20b engine (about $700) right now on the car its a boosted b16a and i was just wondering if i should stay with the b16a or go for a bigger engine with no vtec what you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>

B20z2 IDEAL, second to that, B20B, i would prolly swap your intake manifold, throttle body etc onto it. Later, make it a B20 VTEC, in the end, you will be smoking your old motor.


Quick Reply: MY TIMING BELT RIPPED!!!!!!!!



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:37 AM.