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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Default Strange Idle after hondata s200/street tuned...

The engine is a completely stock b18c-r. The only mods are a hytech header, catback, and j's intake.

So to manage the air/fuel, I decided to go s200 to just get the installation out the way for later uses.

I'm running a p28 chipped for hondata and a s200.

Had the motor street tuned with wideband for now.

Dyno before (dynopac):
http://deviantpixels.com/zdrive/dyno1.jpg

Dyno after (dynojet):
(I was told this was good because the dynos are different so it's really better than the before dyno which has a higher hp gain)
http://deviantpixels.com/zdrive/dyno3.jpg

Anyway, everything feels great. Definately feels smoother. The problem is when I come to a complete stop the idle surges between 1200 and 1500 rpm's. Then after doing this for a few seconds, it drops to about 1100 or 1200rpm's and holds a steady idle there.

Is there something wrong? I still have my jdm itr ecu and it idles perfectly fine with it installed (around 800rpm's) so it's something with the hondata I'm guessing.

Anybody know?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Default Re: Strange Idle after hondata s200/street tuned... (kay_animation)

Idle air control valve duty cycle, try adjusting that.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Idle air control valve duty cycle, try adjusting that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Adjusting it inside the hondata program?

Hopefully that wasn't a dumb question

And if it's not in the hondata program, why would it run perfectly with the oem ecu?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Strange Idle after hondata s200/street tuned... (kay_animation)

Yes, it is an option in the software.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, it is an option in the software.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cool, I'll ask the tuner. Thanks a lot for the help.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Idle air control valve duty cycle, try adjusting that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I suffer from the same problem, I wonder why my tuner didn't adjust it when the car was dyno tuned.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 05:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nholmes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I suffer from the same problem, I wonder why my tuner didn't adjust it when the car was dyno tuned. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure, maybe it just didn't stand out. I don't think my car did it while it was getting tuned, then suddenly the day after I noticed it

It's like suddenly feeling sick after you just got back from the doctors.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nholmes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I suffer from the same problem, I wonder why my tuner didn't adjust it when the car was dyno tuned. </TD></TR></TABLE>

X2

and I think to myself... "all luxury cars behave in this fashion."

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kay_animation &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The problem is when I come to a complete stop the idle surges between 1200 and 1500 rpm's. Then after doing this for a few seconds, it drops to about 1100 or 1200rpm's and holds a steady idle there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine doesn't do it every time... seems like only after I beat on it. Perhaps it's the engine getting back at me. It's saying... "F your momma... here's a bad idle for you". I've also noticed that when using the a/c the idle wants to drop a bit and the varied idle sitution increases. BTW... S200B I'm using with a JRSC.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Emailed you.

If we just turn the duty cycle down a touch sometimes that fixes it.



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