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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Ok well...I finally got my brake pads on the rear and everything got all that done...so I put everything back together and dropped the car back down, go get in my car to see how the brakes feel..I push the brake pedal down and it goes straight to the floor i dont understand why it would do this...I pull my ebrake up and it goes up sooo easy...i didnt mess with anything but my brake pads..the only other thing I did was I unhooked one brake line from one brake caliper...when I did that all my brake fluid drained out but I filled it back up...I kept pushing the brakes in a lot over and over and it started to get a lil stiffer but nothing like it should be..anyone have any suggestions? please help haha I cant take it...if i started my car do u think that would help????? another question I have is whats an easier way to remove an oil filter other than using sand paper which is what I used to do
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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err whoa

Wait a bit before you hurt yourself and you vehicle...that line you removed from that one caliper wasn't the brake line itself was it? Drained out fluid, im guessing it was...and if it IS then you've lost and got air into your once sealed brake unit.

You'd now have to bleed your brakes...meaning one person apply/pump the brake and hold, while another opens the bleeder allow the air trapped inside out Goes into alot more detail, but that's what i'd do first.

Starting your car up will not help you at all Goodluck
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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how do I hold open the bleeder? that might be a stupid question but when it comes to brakes I dont know jack ****...literally
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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You need an experienced brake bleeder (someone who knows how to do it) to help you out with this. One guy has to pump the brakes, and the other guy has the release and re-tighten the bleeder screw. You have to do it right, or it won't do any good. I suggest doing a search on brake bleeding. There are threads with step by step instructions on bleeding brakes. Do you even know where the bleeder screw is?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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no man i dont lol...like i said i dont know anything about brakes
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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bleed your brakes....you might have to bleed your master cylander as well............that is gonna suck.......
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Start from furthest away from the master cylinder and bleed. I think our cars you have to go in an X pattern or something like that starting from rear passenger side. Have someone pump the brakes while you open the bleeder (i think its a 10mm) with a wrench and keep on doin it until you see no more bubbles come out.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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why and how would i have to bleed my master cylinder??
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Here's a link, read the whole thing. If you don't understand something, just ask. The bleeder screw is on the back of the calliper. Looks like a grease zerk, sort of. It should have a little cap on it.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1488997
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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is there anyway you can show me where the bleeder screw is...other than that I understand it completely now
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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oh and where can I get some clear drain tube at that would fit it?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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It should be on the back of the calliper. It should also have a black plastic cap on it. It looks sort of like a grease zerk, only with a larger hole in it. The clear tube can be foud at any parts store. The tube has to fit tight on the screw, or it will fly off with the pressure of the fluid squirting out. It can be done without the tube, but it will make quite a mess without it. Good luck
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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thanks so much for the help I see it and I understand completely now im gonna get started on it first thing tomorrow morning so I can finally drive my car again!
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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becuase you might have got air in it.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lowered94accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks so much for the help I see it and I understand completely now im gonna get started on it first thing tomorrow morning so I can finally drive my car again!</TD></TR></TABLE>

On more thing: please, Please before you drive around the city, please again please go to an empty parking lot and test your brakes; because I don't want to hear some s*** happened to you.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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well I finally bleeded my brakes today..it took me a while to get everything together so I knew i was doing it correct..but I did it just as posted...and a **** load of air came out of my right rear one...it was all air for like 2 minutes then some brake fluid finally started coming out...anyways I just wanted to thank everyone for their help..I havent driven it yet I have to wait till tomorrow cuz I need two new caliper braket bolts but my brakes feel like amazing...I pressed them in and I got an immediate response...everything is working great and im super happy thanks again to everyone who helped me out!!!!
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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And now you know how to bleed brakes. This knowledge will come in handy again down the road. Either on your car, or maybe a friend's car. All cars pretty much work the same way, as far as bleeding goes. I don't want to scare you with this, but if you had old, dirty brake fluid in the system, your master cylinder may go out soon (just don't be surprised). It's not too expensive though, and pretty easy to change. Glad you got it.
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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how will I know if the master cylinder is out...actually i have another question...when my car is off the brakes feel really tough and everything...and when I start it they go down a lot and feel a lot softer...is that the master cylinder goin out? and where exactly is it located?
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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The master cylinder is the thing you pour the brake fluid in. Well it's really the metal part under the plastic cup on top. Weren't you adding fluid when you were bleeding the brakes?
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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yea the fluid level never even came close to the bottom of that thing..i kept it close to full the whole time
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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and exactly how much is a new master cylinder
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lowered94accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how will I know if the master cylinder is out...actually i have another question...when my car is off the brakes feel really tough and everything...and when I start it they go down a lot and feel a lot softer...is that the master cylinder goin out? and where exactly is it located?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Certainly could be the MC.
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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It could be the rear brake caliper, since in your other post you mentioned the piston fell out. Loosen the wheel, jack up the car, then take off the wheel, and check to see if any brake fluid is leaking from the caliper. If so, you might need to get the caliper rebuilt, or buy a rebuilt caliper.

If its not the caliper, then possibly the master cylinder.

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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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You can get just the MC for less than that though. You would not need the cup, and cap, just the MC. Check around for other prices.

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...POWER
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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gah i hope they arent that expensive haha I dont have much money right now...and i dont seem to find any brake fluid leaking out in the rear caliper..everything seems to be intact back there..im guessing its time to replace master cylinder...how easy is it to do this? and can i still drive my car if its going bad?
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