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why would you want to get rid of vtec?????????

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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why would u want to "kill" vtech?????
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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You've got to be ******* kidding me.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sh!ttyLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You've got to be ******* kidding me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

????????? am i just dumb or are these cams made to actually REMOVE vtec???
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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whoa.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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what the ***?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by markysparky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">????????? am i just dumb or are these cams made to actually REMOVE vtec???</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're just dumb. "VTEC killer" doesn't mean that it actually stops vtec from engaging.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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And they're $1,200 too

Werd,I have no idea why this would even be an optin ;-\
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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HAhaha....

anyways....true racecars don't need VTEC, the engines are built to work in a certain powerband. Once out on the track the car stays in a certain working RPM range and doesn't need the extra complex valvetrain of VTEC, as the RPM's stay high enough at all times to not need the "base" profile of the cam.

This is used so you can use the advantages of the VTEC engine parts, but do without VTEC and the whole mechanism.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sh!ttyLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're just dumb. "VTEC killer" doesn't mean that it actually stops vtec from engaging.</TD></TR></TABLE>

are u dumb??? read wat is says.........

"Includes both Intake and Exhaust camshafts, and all components necessary to remove VTEC."
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Or..maybe it does mean that it removes it?

I don't know, I just thought all you guys were idiots and were misinterpreting it. Damn.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by markysparky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are u dumb??? read wat is says.........

"Includes both Intake and Exhaust camshafts, and all components necessary to remove VTEC."</TD></TR></TABLE>

Reading ownz me. Sorry.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^your a dumb expletive!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sh!ttyLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or..maybe it does mean that it removes it?

I don't know, I just thought all you guys were idiots and were misinterpreting it. Damn.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its ok still love u jpjpjpjp but seriously this was me reaction to reading it:

ladadada ((reading)) ldada..remove vtec?...laldala WTF!? NO VTEC!?#@ VTEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMEK-9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^^^^^^^^^your a dumb expletive!!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>


who exactly were you referring to as a dumb expletive?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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I'm just as confused as anyone else. Could someone explain the purpose of these cams to me in detail please? Im just really interested
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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im thinking with all the power u would produce from a turbo....u dont need a vtec, its just another thing to break when producing MAD HONDA POWER y0!
so those ppl with high hp engines dont really NEED vtec......i think......

edit: high hp as in 700hp +
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Well, read my post! And read the Toda website...

http://www.todaracing.com/prod....html

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Toda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Design
The primary and secondary lobes are designed to be the same size. Overall construction of the cam has been heavily revised. With areas of stress,rigidity and weight all greatly benefiting. Normal cams are created from solid blanks, but the VTEC KILLER CAM is produced from a hollow blank, which not only reduces weight but also improves valve timing accuracy through a reduction in flexing. The cam is designed to bed in quickly and have a low wear rate.

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The mid rocker cam is removed & both pins are changed, reducing the valve train mass for better response. Disabling the VTEC system removes fluctuations in the oil pressure system, securing a reliable oil feed to all the main moving components. Lost motion valve should be removed. For max performance, should be used in conjunction with TODA Sports Injection kit.

The kit comes complete with camshafts and special hardware needed to complete the conversion.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by markysparky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

its ok still love u jpjpjpjp but seriously this was me reaction to reading it:

ladadada ((reading)) ldada..remove vtec?...laldala WTF!? NO VTEC!?#@ VTEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>


to him but wha eva
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by markysparky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im thinking with all the power u would produce from a turbo....u dont need a vtec, its just another thing to break when producing MAD HONDA POWER y0!
so those ppl with high hp engines dont really NEED vtec......i think......

edit: high hp as in 700hp +</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong.


Marauder was right

That would be the only reason that you would possibly want to remove VTEC, thats why I thought all of you guys were idiots when you were saying thats what the function of the cam actually was.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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this is easy. race cars dont need vtec because like said, they are always in the powerband. of coarse a vtec head is designed to flow better stock than a non vtec head, so using a vtec head w/ race cams on a "track car" vtec isnt needed. basically, it has nothing to do w/ simplifiying the valvetrain, its just theres no point in using low cam high cam design of vtec, when the motor is built to always be using the high cam. as long as it idles and gets down the track, no need to worry about low end power w/ is the whole point of vtec anyways.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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most of you are retarded lol
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by markysparky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.passwordjdm.com/pro...D=380

why would u want to "kill" vtech????? </TD></TR></TABLE>

and its vtec dumbass
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soccerking3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most of you are retarded lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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lol, anyways some one gave you a very good answer up top.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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This is the stupidest thread I've read in a long time. So many morons in here, so little time for me to flame before I have to get back to work.
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