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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Hi guys, just wondering, will too much toe-out or camber cause the wheel to vibrate really bad at highway speeds, and also at lower speeds when transitioning between left and right?

I am really having a hard time diagnosing what's causing this on my car, and this is the last thing I can think of??

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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hmm, I am having steering wheels vibrations as well on the highway.
So far I have replaced my front steering rack, tie rods, wheel bearings,
did an alignment, and still cant figure it out !

Maybe its my tires or bad front axles.....
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Well I know mine is not wheel balance as I have tried the stock wheels and the set off my Saturn. And all things that I thought could be loose in the front end, such as bearings and bushing, all are fine. I just replaced the left upper control arm because the ball joint and bushings were bad. But that didn't help the vibration at all.

One of the CV's were replaced last year. One person has told me that might be the problem, but they both seem to be fine.

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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help this guy
mine does the same
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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kinda sounds like a blown shock to me.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 05:06 AM
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That shocks are not very old, Koni Yellow SPSS3's.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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What about brakes? I did have a rotor that was warped enough to cause a vibration. It's a long shot, but figured I'd throw it out there.

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about brakes? I did have a rotor that was warped enough to cause a vibration. It's a long shot, but figured I'd throw it out there.

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No, just replaced the rotors, and it was doing it long before I changed those.

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about brakes? I did have a rotor that was warped enough to cause a vibration. It's a long shot, but figured I'd throw it out there.

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Ya when you stop and it shakes, then its a warped rotor.
But if it shakes without braking, its not the brakes....
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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mines doing it too, it vibrates right around 60 mph then stops. my tires are balanced. Im confused. lol
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Problem solved. Thanks for the help guys!!

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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???
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Well I had the car for about 3 months now I guess. This was really the first time I had the time to get under and take a peak at stuff. Boy am I glad I did or I woulda eventually gotten myself killed. This car was falling apart, so bad. I never seen anything like it.

Every bolt and nut that had to do with the rear suspension was loose. The other upper control arm, on the other side that I didn't replace was not even close to being tight at all. The rear was the scariest, I cannot believe it actually.

But right now, everything is grand. The 3 day marathon is over.

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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alright. i believe it. glad you caught it. enjoy.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rob. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But if it shakes without braking, its not the brakes....</TD></TR></TABLE>

While the problem has been solved; I wanted to add that the rotors I was talking about were warped enough to vibrate at highway speeds. While the rotors mass is closely centered to the hub, it is still a rotational mass that can cause a vibration when out of balance or warped; just as with a tire.

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