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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Today im replaceing a seized caliper in the driver rear of our SI. I was wondering if i need to bleed the brakes all the way around or just on this corner? Any help would be useful...

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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You can just do one corner, but if you did all, it'd probably be best. Which side is it ?

If you're doing all, start from right rear, left rear, front right, front left.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I3ooS710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can just do one corner, but if you did all, it'd probably be best. Which side is it ?

If you're doing all, start from right rear, left rear, front right, front left. </TD></TR></TABLE> Right on If your doing one might as well do them all, its the same procedure for all.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Do them all. Its not going to give you the best stoping power if you just do the one side.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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Its the left rear? Driver side rear. So start pass side pump 5 times, hold, loosen valve (buddy) until air is gone, tighten release pedal and move on? Correct?
In this order? VVVV
right rear, left rear, front right, front left

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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You want to start from the furthest from the Master Cylinder. There are tons of ways to do this procedure but I find that pumping the brakes while the bleeder is open and closing the bleeder while someone is pumping is best for me. Fast too!

Many will say otherwise, but there are a few methods of "bleeding" the brakes.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IWANTAHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
right rear, left rear, front right, front left
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This is wrong.

It's right rear, then left front. Then left rear and then right front. Think of your brake lines as a tree branch. From the M/C it splits in two to feed the right rear and left front on one branch and left rear and right front on the other branch. You need to bleed in this order so there's no risk of air bubbles in the system.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpkelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is wrong.

It's right rear, then left front. Then left rear and then right front. Think of your brake lines as a tree branch. From the M/C it splits in two to feed the right rear and left front on one branch and left rear and right front on the other branch. You need to bleed in this order so there's no risk of air bubbles in the system. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well maybe that's why i just bled them and drove the car and they feel so damn spongey...Off to give it another try...Whats the best way to do it by yourself? My partner in crime had to leave....

-Andru
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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You can use a vacuum pump to suck the brake fluid out. I don't like this method. If you're not careful, brake fluid will work its way into your pump and ruin the seals. Also, the tube that goes on the bleeder bolt doesn't seal properly and air gets in.

Otherwise wait till your partner returns. Put a block of wood under the brake pedal so you don't press it too far while pumping the brakes.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpkelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Otherwise wait till your partner returns. Put a block of wood under the brake pedal so you don't press it too far while pumping the brakes. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What do you mean by pressing it to far?
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Just start from the one furthest away from the master cylinder. If it's still "soft", you've done something wrong or there's still air in the lines.

All you need is someone to pump the brakes.

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Ii thought it was you start at the farthest corner and work your way to the closer one------????
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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you could just do that one but while your at it you might as well bleed them all.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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bleed all around..
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IWANTAHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What do you mean by pressing it to far?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The brake pedal should not go all the way down to the floor. You'll ruin seals.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I3ooS710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just start from the one furthest away from the master cylinder. If it's still "soft", you've done something wrong or there's still air in the lines.

All you need is someone to pump the brakes.

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Totally wrong. See my previous post and better yet read Helm's, Hayne's and Chilton's manuals. They all say the same thing.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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lol, just do it right.. come on slackers
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpkelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The brake pedal should not go all the way down to the floor. You'll ruin seals.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, sounds good. Thanks alot, the car has been fixed since Thursday though.

-Andru
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Bleed them all. Starting at the corner furthest away from the brake reservoir.
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