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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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I finally got an alignment and here are the results. Car is a 99 Honda Civic Si with Tokico Illuminas and Eibach Pro-Kit. Car had 1/2 tank of gas if that matters.

BEFORE:

Front Camber Left -1.1*
Front Camber Right -1.8*
Rear Camber Left -2.6*
Rear Camber Right -2.6*
Front Toe Left -.33*
Front Toe Right +.38*
Rear Toe Left -.53*
Rear Toe Right -.60*
Total Toe -1.13*
Thrust Angle .04*

AFTER:

Front Camber Left -1.1*
Front Camber Right -1.8*
Rear Camber Left -2.0*
Rear Camber Right -2.4*
Front Toe Left 0*
Front Toe Right 0*
Rear Toe Left .07*
Rear Toe Right 0*
Total Toe .07*
Thrust Angle .03*

The * symbol is for degrees. All measurements were in degrees and not inches.


I know what these numbers stand for but I don't know how they affect the car. As you can see the before numbers were WAY off and the car pulled bad.

What do you think of the new numbers? Normal?
The rear camber is about -2.2. Im thinking of doing the rear washer trick. What do you think? Is the -2.4 excessive? If I do the washer trick is it going to make me need an alignment again? Does a camber change affect the toe? How many washers/thickness of washers should i use to get the camber to about -1* or whatever a good number is?
Does changing tire size and rim size affect the alignment?

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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This is what I know. I had around -2.7 rear camber before I used the prokit. The tires hadnt been rotated in soo long. No funny wear at all, toe was fine. Im now at -1.7 with toe almost zeroed out. I think your fine. Throw a couple washers in there, and you will be great!!
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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I worried about doing the washer trick to the rear and messing up the rear toe. Will that happen?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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Its fine. Throw the washers in before the alignment. Changing Camber affects TOE, not the other way around. So if you set your camber before you set TOE, then you set toe, the camber should not change.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turner7205 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its fine. Throw the washers in before the alignment. Changing Camber affects TOE, not the other way around. So if you set your camber before you set TOE, then you set toe, the camber should not change.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I already got an alignment. Im guessing I should leave the -2.0* and -2.4* in the rear since the washer trick will affect the toe i just got corrected.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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looks good to me.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboEM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I already got an alignment. Im guessing I should leave the -2.0* and -2.4* in the rear since the washer trick will affect the toe i just got corrected. </TD></TR></TABLE> Thats my fault. I dont know where you got it done, but some places have a warranty. Take advantage of it. Throw the washers in, and tell them you think its pulling. They will get it up there, and have the compare the old toe numbers to shoe that the toe did move but you dont know why They should fix it for ya.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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the rear camber is fine. you just need to take care of the toe which is spot on.

stop worrying.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the rear camber is fine. you just need to take care of the toe which is spot on.

stop worrying.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks. thats all i wanted to know
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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where did you take the car?
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:12 AM
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Mavis Discount Tire

http://www.MavisTire.com
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