Hey guys, I was looking for a turbo and found a t3/t4 60 trim turbo with .48/.60 a/r on the compressor and turbin sides.

Is this a decent turbo to be using for a forged lower end d16a6? It has a vband exhaust side, and that's cool. Its internally wastegated. ???

 

What kind of power are you going to try to make?

 

350 ish?

Anybody got a dyno of this turbo on a honda, or have acompressor map? I tried searching the net but came up empty handed.

 

try turbonetics web site for comp maps.

 

its going to have a pretty late spool, somewhere around 5700rpm so unless you arent revving it past redline i think it'll be a little large for 350whp considering it can flow around 500whp

 

WAY too big, IMO. If its built, it can take extra heat, so for the same cash you can get a true <U>Super</U>60 T3 (not just a .60/.63 60trim t3) or a 50trim t3/t4. When you read compressor maps, you'll realize that you don't need such a large turbo with most honda power goals.

 

Comparing the comp maps between the 46 and 50 trim, i think the 46 would have killer spool and decent top end. But when i bought mine i went with the 50 trim.

 

i have a d16a6, with srp pistons, and eagle rods, and i built a turbo out of svo/volvo parts. its a t3, .60 compressor from an svo mustang, and a .48 exhaust from a volvo (i think)

it spools INSANELY quickly. i love it, and might step up to a .60 exhaust, and a slightly large intake (small t4, .60 maybe)

 

I'm sure that someone has ran a 46 trim on a sohc before but i wasn't able to find any one, or any threads. I'm super curious what the real life spool characteristics are like.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WAY too big, IMO. If its built, it can take extra heat, so for the same cash you can get a true <U>Super</U>60 T3 (not just a .60/.63 60trim t3) or a 50trim t3/t4. When you read compressor maps, you'll realize that you don't need such a large turbo with most honda power goals.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is the map for the super 60 right??

http://64.225.76.178/catalog/compmaps/fig5.html

It kinda seems like 350 will be pushing this turbo to its outer limits. Or is there something I am missing here??

OT: The t3/t04e 50 trim with the .48 a/r turbine housing will do you fine imho.

 

by "true super 60" i think he meant this one?

http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/gat3w48ar.html

61lbs of flOWNAGE. Probably over kill though.

 

i would get a .63 turbine. and a smaller comp wheel.

once you get up into the higher psi levels, you will have a hard time gettin all your exhaust through a .48 turbine housing.
the result will be a contaminated burn.

ask me how i know

btw- im running a t3t4e 57 trim at ~26 psi. - making ~300ish
i WILL be switching to a 63 turbine.

 

It was this turbo.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

Yes I know SSAUTOCHROME sucks. But anyways, this turbo looked inexpensive and has a vband, yada yada.

 

Yeah man... Ive got a b16 built bottom end and i have a turbonetics t3 super 60 DBB an i was hitting full boost at about 4000-4200... And that specific turbo is rated at only 350ish sooo your gonna be working that lil snail of yours...

 

a b16 isnt going to spool a turbo much faster if any than a d-series...

 

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but B16's rev a lot higher

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but B16's rev a lot higher </TD></TR></TABLE>

and the head flows ALOT better then a d head.

which also helps spool time

 

But I don't know if this turbo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

is a super 60 or not. All I know is what was in the advertisement.

 

dont buy turbos from that company.

they are knockoffs.

 

don't buy that turbo to later post "my turbo blew" i would say get a t3 super 60

 

the turbos are even fake? I just figured they used a normal t3/t4 turbo.

hmmm

 

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and the head flows ALOT better then a d head.

which also helps spool time </TD></TR></TABLE>

Displacement is the main factor in spool up. B16 and D16 should be able to spool about the same given everything else is equal. B18 on the other hand has more displacement and would spool better than the D16.

 

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Displacement is the main factor in spool up. B16 and D16 should be able to spool about the same given everything else is equal. B18 on the other hand has more displacement and would spool better than the D16.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but, given the exact setup on a b16 and a d16, a b16 will spool faster then a d16, may not be a huge difference, but whe a 1.6 liter streetcar is tryin to spool a 57trim+ .63 a/r'd turbine, every little bit helps

 

like i said the b16 would only be able to spool a large turbo only slightly faster

 

thats not even a "t3/t4"´. its just a straight t3. i hate that company...