Notices

Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-22-2006, 07:21 AM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
rice is nice's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: WISCONSIN
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16?

Hey guys, I was looking for a turbo and found a t3/t4 60 trim turbo with .48/.60 a/r on the compressor and turbin sides.

Is this a decent turbo to be using for a forged lower end d16a6? It has a vband exhaust side, and that's cool. Its internally wastegated. ???

Old 03-22-2006, 07:54 AM
  #2  
Member
 
Everyones Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Southern, MD, USA
Posts: 1,323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (rice is nice)

What kind of power are you going to try to make?
Old 03-22-2006, 08:00 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
rice is nice's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: WISCONSIN
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (Everyones Hero)

350 ish?

Anybody got a dyno of this turbo on a honda, or have acompressor map? I tried searching the net but came up empty handed.
Old 03-22-2006, 08:04 AM
  #4  
Junior Member
 
sohc_turd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: wa
Posts: 828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (rice is nice)

try turbonetics web site for comp maps.
Old 03-22-2006, 08:30 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Soccerking3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Catching Rivers on Fire TWICE
Posts: 6,281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (sohc_turd)

its going to have a pretty late spool, somewhere around 5700rpm so unless you arent revving it past redline i think it'll be a little large for 350whp considering it can flow around 500whp
Old 03-22-2006, 08:46 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
HiProfile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: b00sting my D16s, SoWis, USA
Posts: 7,015
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (Soccerking3000)

WAY too big, IMO. If its built, it can take extra heat, so for the same cash you can get a true <U>Super</U>60 T3 (not just a .60/.63 60trim t3) or a 50trim t3/t4. When you read compressor maps, you'll realize that you don't need such a large turbo with most honda power goals.
Old 03-22-2006, 10:48 AM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
sohc_turd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: wa
Posts: 828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (HiProfile)

Comparing the comp maps between the 46 and 50 trim, i think the 46 would have killer spool and decent top end. But when i bought mine i went with the 50 trim.
Old 03-22-2006, 11:05 AM
  #8  
something different
 
redzcstandardhatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: grand rapids/chicago, usa
Posts: 6,995
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

i have a d16a6, with srp pistons, and eagle rods, and i built a turbo out of svo/volvo parts. its a t3, .60 compressor from an svo mustang, and a .48 exhaust from a volvo (i think)

it spools INSANELY quickly. i love it, and might step up to a .60 exhaust, and a slightly large intake (small t4, .60 maybe)
Old 03-22-2006, 11:22 AM
  #9  
Junior Member
 
sohc_turd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: wa
Posts: 828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (sohc_turd)

I'm sure that someone has ran a 46 trim on a sohc before but i wasn't able to find any one, or any threads. I'm super curious what the real life spool characteristics are like.

Old 03-22-2006, 11:24 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
KeyserSoze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: RIP Duke of Turbo, CA
Posts: 1,832
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (HiProfile)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WAY too big, IMO. If its built, it can take extra heat, so for the same cash you can get a true <U>Super</U>60 T3 (not just a .60/.63 60trim t3) or a 50trim t3/t4. When you read compressor maps, you'll realize that you don't need such a large turbo with most honda power goals.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is the map for the super 60 right??

http://64.225.76.178/catalog/compmaps/fig5.html

It kinda seems like 350 will be pushing this turbo to its outer limits. Or is there something I am missing here??

OT: The t3/t04e 50 trim with the .48 a/r turbine housing will do you fine imho.
Old 03-22-2006, 11:32 AM
  #11  
Junior Member
 
sohc_turd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: wa
Posts: 828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (KeyserSoze)

by "true super 60" i think he meant this one?

http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/gat3w48ar.html

61lbs of flOWNAGE. Probably over kill though.
Old 03-22-2006, 12:21 PM
  #12  
I've quit using this account
 
Kelly.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: southern colorado
Posts: 2,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i would get a .63 turbine. and a smaller comp wheel.

once you get up into the higher psi levels, you will have a hard time gettin all your exhaust through a .48 turbine housing.
the result will be a contaminated burn.

ask me how i know

btw- im running a t3t4e 57 trim at ~26 psi. - making ~300ish
i WILL be switching to a 63 turbine.

Old 03-22-2006, 03:23 PM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
rice is nice's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: WISCONSIN
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (rice is nice)

It was this turbo.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

Yes I know SSAUTOCHROME sucks. But anyways, this turbo looked inexpensive and has a vband, yada yada.
Old 03-22-2006, 05:52 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
kdawgy2k1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Some where in, Maryland
Posts: 266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yeah man... Ive got a b16 built bottom end and i have a turbonetics t3 super 60 DBB an i was hitting full boost at about 4000-4200... And that specific turbo is rated at only 350ish sooo your gonna be working that lil snail of yours...
Old 03-22-2006, 06:01 PM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Soccerking3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Catching Rivers on Fire TWICE
Posts: 6,281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (kdawgy2k1)

a b16 isnt going to spool a turbo much faster if any than a d-series...
Old 03-22-2006, 06:07 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
nonvtecD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Watertown, CT, USA
Posts: 1,734
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Soccerking3000)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soccerking3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a b16 isnt going to spool a turbo much faster if any than a d-series...</TD></TR></TABLE>

but B16's rev a lot higher
Old 03-22-2006, 07:15 PM
  #17  
I've quit using this account
 
Kelly.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: southern colorado
Posts: 2,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (nonvtecD)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but B16's rev a lot higher </TD></TR></TABLE>

and the head flows ALOT better then a d head.

which also helps spool time
Old 03-24-2006, 06:29 AM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
rice is nice's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: WISCONSIN
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (rice is nice)

But I don't know if this turbo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

is a super 60 or not. All I know is what was in the advertisement.
Old 03-24-2006, 07:24 AM
  #19  
something different
 
redzcstandardhatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: grand rapids/chicago, usa
Posts: 6,995
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (rice is nice)

dont buy turbos from that company.

they are knockoffs.
Old 03-24-2006, 08:10 AM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
yee SERIOUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Village Hidden in the Leaves: Seattle, WA
Posts: 22,150
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

don't buy that turbo to later post "my turbo blew" i would say get a t3 super 60
Old 03-24-2006, 08:37 AM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
rice is nice's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: WISCONSIN
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16? (redzcstandardhatch)

the turbos are even fake? I just figured they used a normal t3/t4 turbo.

hmmm
Old 03-24-2006, 08:43 AM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
 
RyanEJ8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Margaritaville
Posts: 7,355
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (llewsirc)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llewsirc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

and the head flows ALOT better then a d head.

which also helps spool time </TD></TR></TABLE>

Displacement is the main factor in spool up. B16 and D16 should be able to spool about the same given everything else is equal. B18 on the other hand has more displacement and would spool better than the D16.
Old 03-24-2006, 10:29 AM
  #23  
I've quit using this account
 
Kelly.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: southern colorado
Posts: 2,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (RyanCivic2000)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Displacement is the main factor in spool up. B16 and D16 should be able to spool about the same given everything else is equal. B18 on the other hand has more displacement and would spool better than the D16.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but, given the exact setup on a b16 and a d16, a b16 will spool faster then a d16, may not be a huge difference, but whe a 1.6 liter streetcar is tryin to spool a 57trim+ .63 a/r'd turbine, every little bit helps
Old 03-24-2006, 12:42 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Soccerking3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Catching Rivers on Fire TWICE
Posts: 6,281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (llewsirc)

like i said the b16 would only be able to spool a large turbo only slightly faster
Old 03-24-2006, 12:59 PM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
 
FactionR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Jax, FL
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Soccerking3000)

thats not even a "t3/t4"´. its just a straight t3. i hate that company...


Quick Reply: Is a t3/t4 60 trim .48a/r compressor .60 a/r turbine good for a built d16?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:19 PM.