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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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It looks like I might not be able to get the FJO injector driver in time before Mase comes up to tune my car. My other option is to get the AEM injector driver. Is anyone running this one and how is it? Any issues with it?

The new FJO driver will have 5 wires to hook up vs the old one. Looking at the AEM driver it looks like that has a ton of wires to hook up also.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:00 AM
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I really don't know to much on the AEM injector driver but I would just go ahead and get the FJO one. You know that it works well and second it has less wires and if your worried about getting in time just next day air (Ya its crazy how much they charge for such a small package).
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rico &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really don't know to much on the AEM injector driver but I would just go ahead and get the FJO one. You know that it works well and second it has less wires and if your worried about getting in time just next day air (Ya its crazy how much they charge for such a small package).</TD></TR></TABLE>

I found the aem for 270. The FJO is 191 plus 20 for normal shipping, and 39 for 3 day. But they are still estimating on when it will be finished and released to the public.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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the 18 wire fjo was a pain in the *** to wire.....the newer one should be a 10 minute thing.....


I took my wire harness off the motor ...cut the 4 injector plugs off and soldered and heat shrinked them to the input harness

then it needs a power and ground and you wire an ouput harness to the 4 injectors

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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I am thinking the AEM one is going to be the same as the older fjo one.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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I just wired in my FJO one yesterday. It was pretty easy to wire but took about an hour to solder everything. I can take some pics tomorrow if u need them.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbocivic94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just wired in my FJO one yesterday. It was pretty easy to wire but took about an hour to solder everything. I can take some pics tomorrow if u need them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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can u post a wire diagram or where i can find one...or just list the colors where its suppose to go...sumthing! haha...i bought mine (18wire) didnt know they had a 5 wire one...but it didnt come with a diagram thanks!
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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i'm running the aem injector driver. its pretty simple to install if you can follow directions. connect the 4 input wires to the ecu injector outputs. connect the 4 output of the injector driver to the injectors. then hook up power and ground. simple.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Any issues with the aem?
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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so im guessing...the aem and fjo are the same in wiring...cool!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by underpressure02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any issues with the aem?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its great. i'm running 1600cc injectors and my car idles like stock
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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How long have you been running the aem injector driver unit?
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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where did u see the new FJO is only going to have 5 wires?

im curious to find out more about the AEM setup as well.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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you do not wire up 18 wires for the AEM one, you only wire up 2 wires (input, output) per injector....plus the ground and power....so for a 4 cylinder u woudl wire up 8 for the injectors and 2 power/ground
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where did u see the new FJO is only going to have 5 wires?

im curious to find out more about the AEM setup as well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I talked to FJO
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 06:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D@nnY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 18 wire fjo was a pain in the *** to wire.....the newer one should be a 10 minute thing.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

True.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where did u see the new FJO is only going to have 5 wires?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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nice
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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are you guys using hondata/same **** for these 1600s then? I assume so, but just wanted to ensure.

I started to tune my new engine/setup without nitrous just at 14psi and found that my 1000cc injectors are at 77%@9200 with 14psi...so i don't think it's goign to like 28psi. then when i start the juice..... although my base fuel pressure is 45psi, so i guess i need to pump that up.
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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FJO came through. They were expecting the driver to be released this friday but they were able to get it done and get one out to me today. Almost a week ahead of schedule.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you guys using hondata/same **** for these 1600s then? I assume so, but just wanted to ensure.

I started to tune my new engine/setup without nitrous just at 14psi and found that my 1000cc injectors are at 77%@9200 with 14psi...so i don't think it's goign to like 28psi. then when i start the juice..... although my base fuel pressure is 45psi, so i guess i need to pump that up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

when u use an p&h injector driver, the injectors are driven so much more effciently that the duty cycle goes down vs when using a saturated driver + resistors
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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no ****... so the hondata calculated duty cycle may just be off key regardless?
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no ****... so the hondata calculated duty cycle may just be off key regardless?</TD></TR></TABLE>

somewhere in the hondata software u shoudl be able to setup your battery offset for your injectors and specify for a p+h driver setup, and that should keep your calculated duty cycle accurate

atleast thats how it works in the AEM EMS
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AkumaY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

somewhere in the hondata software u shoudl be able to setup your battery offset for your injectors and specify for a p+h driver setup, and that should keep your calculated duty cycle accurate

atleast thats how it works in the AEM EMS </TD></TR></TABLE>

nope
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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i'd say nope on that as well.

i still want to know why i can't get my voltage up. new alternator 0 gauge wiring to relocated battery and still only 13.9volts.... even upgraded the alternator wire to a 6 gauge and ensured all connections are soldiered. maybe its time to get an optima.
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