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Disc swap from 90-93 Inetgra to a 92-95 hatchback. Breaks suck...

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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Default Disc swap from 90-93 Inetgra to a 92-95 hatchback. Breaks suck...

Just finshed rear disc swap on 95 EG Hatchback. A few things the actual rims mounted onto the rear trailing arm/hub stick out to far. So tires rub when I hit bumps or turn. Also break pressure seems very low, like hardly any breaking power. I bleed the system from 1.)passanger front, 2.)passanger rear, 3.)driver rear, and then last 4.)drive side front. 4 times.... Seems there is no air in the system, but almost hits the floor. What could be the issue. I did a direct swap with a 90-93 rear trailing arm, with the integra toe arm. Did i goof up by still using the stock civic lower control arm? And is this why the rim hits the side of the quater pannel.



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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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The 90-93 Integra trailing arm might have a slightly different offset compared to the 94 up Integra. That's probably why the wheel has been pushed out. It could also mean the trailing arms are slightly bent. You can always put back on your drum trailing arms and swap over the spindles from the Teg trailing arms. Also keep in mind that the master cylinder is designed for a drum brake, and is usually smaller than a disc brake master cylinder. This will act like there is a lack of force being applied to the calipers, hence the lack of braking feel. Put on the master cylinder from the 90-93 Civic EX, it will bolt on and is 15/16". It should bring back the pedal pressure you lost.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Well 90-91 would be the old boxy style civic the 92-93 "92-95" would be mine. So should I go with my 92-95 EX master cyln? Also is there any other master break cylns i might want to use beside the civic ex? Like accord integra? Also what about the break booster?

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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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try that master cylinder -- also go with a 4040 prop. valve
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastbrakes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 90-93 Integra trailing arm might have a slightly different offset compared to the 94 up Integra. That's probably why the wheel has been pushed out. It could also mean the trailing arms are slightly bent. You can always put back on your drum trailing arms and swap over the spindles from the Teg trailing arms. Also keep in mind that the master cylinder is designed for a drum brake, and is usually smaller than a disc brake master cylinder. This will act like there is a lack of force being applied to the calipers, hence the lack of braking feel. Put on the master cylinder from the 90-93 Civic EX, it will bolt on and is 15/16". It should bring back the pedal pressure you lost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

People usually upgrade the MC because of Integra front brakes due to the larger piston size. I have a 13/16" MC on my rear disks and I haven't lost pedal feel. It feels much like stock (with the drums) if anything.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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What about break booster? Should I stay with the stock dx booster or go with the Si?
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about break booster? Should I stay with the stock dx booster or go with the Si?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Boosters are the same.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Also for MC, i would want to go with 92-95 Si, not EX. Because if I can rember the EX never had disc only on the Si hatchbacks. Am I correct?
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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U want to use the master cylinder from 90-91 civic ex 4 door 1.6l. It is a 15/16 and will bolt in correctly with all of your cars hard brake lines. It works great for 92-95 civics with 4 wheel disk brakes. Oh yea and you can use the 40/40 prop valve from a non abs 90-93 integra.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Would a bigger break booster help at all?
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would a bigger break booster help at all?
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The brake booster is all of the same between the Civics.
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