hey, just looking for info and help the best way performance/ $$$ wise to build my own turbo kit for my d16y8. whats the best turbo for my setup? i have a d16y8 with around 50k mi, p28 ecu and boomslang obd0 to obd1 conversion. should i use a t3/t4 or t25, t25 has lower boost and i dont want to tear down the motor to mess with compresion. also wondering if i need some type computer modifications to run a turbo. which injectors should i use, etc. just looking for info on complete turbo setup. or should i just trash the idea and go for a b-series swap?

thanks

 

you can go with a t3/t4, just get a thicker head geasket, that can help lower your compression by a small fraction. i believe mr. gasket makes them.. and also a boost controller.. to lower the boost and save your internals.. thats what i did.. try something like 350cc injectors and also a fuel pressure regulator..dont go buying a fuel pump, then youll be dumping too much fuel.. and i used a p28 ecu on my sohc turbo.. those are just a few tips on how to get started bro.. good luck..

 

if your looking for easy power, go B-series

dont bother with the thick headgasket you dont need it unless your planning on over 10 pounds

you wont spool a t3/t4 very quickly, go with a T3 42/48 or a bit bigger, you'll spool around 3K give or take a few hundred

a aftermarket fuel pump is fine as long as you use a FPR (thats the whole point of them!)

get some 450's and call it done, you wont need to replace them unless you plan on over 300HP

a boost controller is a good idea, i'd suggest a dual stage if you want to keep it low while cruiseing and switch it high for some fun

dont just throw a P28 in, get it chipped with uberdata or something similar and get a good tune

 

T28 is key for D series.

14B is good too.

If your looking for cheap power, you can boost your D series for under 1000$, show me 1 B series swap that can be done to an EF for less then 1000$. Even a B18A is into the 1000$+ range because of the mounting kits.

 

i said easy not cheap, plus if he's looking for much more then 250 out of a D-series he's going to have to build the motor anyway, a B-series will do more then that practicly stock and he doesnt seem to wanna crack a block open to build it

so depending on his power goals the cost could come out about even

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WolfGod &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i said easy not cheap, plus if he's looking for much more then 250 out of a D-series he's going to have to build the motor anyway, a B-series will do more then that practicly stock and he doesnt seem to wanna crack a block open to build it

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ummm...a b series isn't going to make near 250hp stock, much less more.

 

How many HP are you looking at making? I'm going for boosting my D-series as well mainly because my SOHC ZC swap is very low mileage. That and I've always wanted to try piecing together my own turbo kit...homemade turbo anyone?

 

i just git this low miles y8 put in and tuned up so thats the reason im not big on a b-series swap at this moment. plus i heard d-series block hold up to boost a lil better, thats just what i heard through the grape vines, lol. would i have to chip the p28 or can i just leave it alone. i dont want to spend way to much, just want a decent performance gain, nothing monsterous casue this will still be a daily driver.

 

You may find something useful here dude.

http://www.turbod16.com/

 

hey wolfgod nothings ever easy if it aint cheap....this guy, a noob, trying to boss around the post..lol

 

the initail cost of the swap would be the expensive part, i have a buddy whos running a shop who has a b series motor pushin almost 350 to the wheels with a motor thats never been opened, i dont remember how many psi he's runnin, i'll have to ask him later, so yes a b-series can do it, of you want a d-series pushin that he's got a buddy who has a d-series pushin almost 400 on a stock block D-16, it'll probably grenade pretty soon but its there which is all that matters

im far from a noob, and in no way was i trying to boss around the post, you posted some bad info and his car would have spooled like **** and probably blown itself to high hell, i posted some better info, thats all there is to it, and things can be more then easy even if they are expensive, you'll get more power on the dollar from a b-series motor easier then you will a d-series, that was what i was pointing out

a thick HG is a band-aid fix to lower compression, and he also specificly said he doesnt want to open up the motor to mess with compression

before you even post advice i'd suggest learning a bit more and reading the whole post


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ummm...a b series isn't going to make near 250hp stock, much less more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

in stock form with a turbo yes it will, easy, he wanted info on a turbo setup so i was assumeing he'd want to turbo the B as well, maybe not, who knows

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXCRAZYD16Y8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just git this low miles y8 put in and tuned up so thats the reason im not big on a b-series swap at this moment. plus i heard d-series block hold up to boost a lil better, thats just what i heard through the grape vines, lol. would i have to chip the p28 or can i just leave it alone. i dont want to spend way to much, just want a decent performance gain, nothing monsterous casue this will still be a daily driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you boost you can either use a s-afc or chip the ecu and tune that way, either will work

both blocks can handle boost, the D-series has weaker rods and not as good head flow as the b, some minor head work can improve this but the b will handle more in stock form

 

imo the best turbo for your setup would be a 14b, i know of people using t3/t4 turbos on there stock y8/z6 t28 are good too... t25 spool too quickly and run to hot... plus 8psi on a 14b will put down more power than 8psi on a t25 and both those turbos run around teh same price just 14b's are a lil harder to come buy, t25's are all over

you can also use a set of dsm injectors that can be found very cheap (i believe they are 390cc)

and the most important thing once you get all your parts together GET IT TUNNED!! dont bother using a fmu or a boost controller or anything like that i would run an external wastegate anyways

 

theres nothing wrong with running a boost controller if you want to up the boost, im running a external tial wastegate as well as a boost controller because they dont sell a spring in the exact psi range i want

 

Dont get a thicker headgasket..When you run a thicker headgasker it lowers the quench area,,and you dont want that on a turbo honda..

14b is a great turbo,,Seems perfect for the 1.6L sohc motors..It kind of sucks if you do a highway pull,,You feel the smallness of it..

Have the p28 ecu socketed and chipped and run a program called uberdata,,then have it street tuned or dyno tuned,,by a person that know what the hell they're doing..

Since you're worried about money,,get some 450cc injectors from an old dsm,get the intercooler and piping off ebay,,Run a bosch or $20 ebay bov,,HF manifold with adapter plate,,Have an exhaust shop make the downpipe..Ebay for the oil feed and return lines..Also I think that 14b is water cooled also so you have to run the lines for that,,You can tap into the intake manifold coolant line for that..You might need to install a 1/2 radiator..So think about that..You can get a new civic 1/2 raditator off ebay for under $20..and a slim fan for cheap also..Get a Autometer boost gauge off ebay..You might need an upgraded clutch also depending on power output,,You can go to ebay for that also..THey have a shitload of different brands at different prices..And for a fuel pump you can get walbros pretty cheap now days ,,like $80 off ebay,,Or you can always get a used pump from a gsr or 99-00 si..They flow much more then the other pumps and fit with little mods,,Also a twin turbo supra fuel pump works..

What am I missing..?

 

Learn to tune before you bolt on and go

 

go 14b/hf manifold do 450cc inj DO get a fuel pump and turboedit if ur odb-0 or uberdata if ur 1.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont get a thicker headgasket..When you run a thicker headgasker it lowers the quench area,,and you dont want that on a turbo honda..

14b is a great turbo,,Seems perfect for the 1.6L sohc motors..It kind of sucks if you do a highway pull,,You feel the smallness of it..

Have the p28 ecu socketed and chipped and run a program called uberdata,,then have it street tuned or dyno tuned,,by a person that know what the hell they're doing..

Since you're worried about money,,get some 450cc injectors from an old dsm,get the intercooler and piping off ebay,,Run a bosch or $20 ebay bov,,HF manifold with adapter plate,,Have an exhaust shop make the downpipe..Ebay for the oil feed and return lines..Also I think that 14b is water cooled also so you have to run the lines for that,,You can tap into the intake manifold coolant line for that..You might need to install a 1/2 radiator..So think about that..You can get a new civic 1/2 raditator off ebay for under $20..and a slim fan for cheap also..Get a Autometer boost gauge off ebay..You might need an upgraded clutch also depending on power output,,You can go to ebay for that also..THey have a shitload of different brands at different prices..And for a fuel pump you can get walbros pretty cheap now days ,,like $80 off ebay,,Or you can always get a used pump from a gsr or 99-00 si..They flow much more then the other pumps and fit with little mods,,Also a twin turbo supra fuel pump works..

What am I missing..?

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Best info in this whole thread

 

My $600 turbo kit on my crx with a d16y8

TD05-12b turbo from an 89 volvo
HF manifold, adapter plate from weir racing
Dsm injectors
walbro 255 lph fuel pump from ebay
autozone exhaust piping for the charge piping
5 in intercooler from johnnyracecar.com
oil lines from a local shop
chipped pm6 running turboedit, get xenocron over at homemadeturbo.com to chip it
ARp headstuds


been running strong at 9psi for 9 months now, its not a hard setup and can be done pretty cheap and reliable, just make sure you have good fuel management.
in your case running obd1 you need to run either chrome or uberdata, check out homemadeturbo.com or evans-tuning.com for info on all that.

 

hey, thanks for all the advice peeps. i can weld very good, i made a down pipe for a buddy, i can do full exhaust, and also machin adapter plates. i have an old hf manifold that i was saving, i could probably just weld the manifold staright to the turbo to ensure no leaks. i can get a t25 easy, what does the 14b turbo come from. also 3" exhaust right? i would probably get it tuned at raceline, tpr, or zero lift. there were a few diff answers on the dsm injectors, which one would work best?

ps: BOOSTED_REX what kinda numbers and performance are getting? whats your engine managment setup? do u have stock internals?

 

2.5 is plenty big enough really

 

for exhuast diameter it depends on power your looking at, 180-240hp with a turbo 2.75 would work good, anything past 250 you want 3in. im putting down around 190~200hp to the wheels, all stock internals except the arp headstuds, im running turboedit and dsm 450cc blue tops and a walbro 255lph fuel pump for fuel management.