ATTN: For those of you who have Koni's...Question
I just installed Koni's yesterday and I opted out of installing the stock dust covers...The reason being that, it looked like it would just cause unwanted noises cause it sat loose on the shock...Did you guys install you stock dut covers? Do they make clicking noises at times?
I didn't install the stock dust covers, but I am going to install universal rubber dust boots that are sold at the local auto parts stores. They are actually used for the power steering dust boot, but will work fine for the Koni's.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam92Teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didn't install the stock dust covers, but I am going to install universal rubber dust boots that are sold at the local auto parts stores. They are actually used for the power steering dust boot, but will work fine for the Koni's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I meant noises when the dust covers are installed...
I meant noises when the dust covers are installed...
i have the dust covers installed, and they're definitely not loose. i had to increase the size of the hole so that they could fit over the slightly thicker shaft.
then, there's the "seat" at the bottom of the threaded portion of the shaft. so, i believe i have it as, washer, dust cover, washer, upper base, washer, and the two nuts tightened over that..
something like that. this is from memory from years ago. but yeah, they're secure and in place. they move with the shaft.
do you have pics of your situation?
then, there's the "seat" at the bottom of the threaded portion of the shaft. so, i believe i have it as, washer, dust cover, washer, upper base, washer, and the two nuts tightened over that..
something like that. this is from memory from years ago. but yeah, they're secure and in place. they move with the shaft.
do you have pics of your situation?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reno96teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the dust covers installed, and they're definitely not loose. i had to increase the size of the hole so that they could fit over the slightly thicker shaft.
then, there's the "seat" at the bottom of the threaded portion of the shaft. so, i believe i have it as, washer, dust cover, washer, upper base, washer, and the two nuts tightened over that..
something like that. this is from memory from years ago. but yeah, they're secure and in place. they move with the shaft.
do you have pics of your situation?
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Well, on mine I have the same setup except the dust cover has nothing on top of it
so the dust cover stays loose...Maybe when the're weight load on it it will stay flat with the first washer...Nayone else out there use their stock dust cover?
then, there's the "seat" at the bottom of the threaded portion of the shaft. so, i believe i have it as, washer, dust cover, washer, upper base, washer, and the two nuts tightened over that..
something like that. this is from memory from years ago. but yeah, they're secure and in place. they move with the shaft.
do you have pics of your situation?
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Well, on mine I have the same setup except the dust cover has nothing on top of it
so the dust cover stays loose...Maybe when the're weight load on it it will stay flat with the first washer...Nayone else out there use their stock dust cover?
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so the dust cover stays loose...Maybe when the're weight load on it it will stay flat with the first washer...Nayone else out there use their stock dust cover?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're using GC's you can't use the stock dust cover unless you cut it really short, which pretty much makes it useless anyway.
If you're using normal springs, there should be 2 flat washers and a dished washer. The smaller flat washer sits on that little welded piece 2/3 of the way up the shock rod. Then the dust cover, then the larger washer, then the upper spring seat, then the dished washer, and finally the 2 jam nuts on top. When the jam nuts are installed, nothing will be able to move around. The jam nuts will tighten down over the spring seat, which will press and hold the dust cover and washers in place.
Here's the parts laid out in order, except for the dished washer and jam nuts:

As far as the steering rack dust boots, I couldn't get those to work well when I had GC's. The boots were really too big to fit inside and be able to move inside the ERS springs. I zip tied the tops and bottoms of the boot in place, but it usually would get stuck in the spring and come loose from the zip ties.
so the dust cover stays loose...Maybe when the're weight load on it it will stay flat with the first washer...Nayone else out there use their stock dust cover?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're using GC's you can't use the stock dust cover unless you cut it really short, which pretty much makes it useless anyway.
If you're using normal springs, there should be 2 flat washers and a dished washer. The smaller flat washer sits on that little welded piece 2/3 of the way up the shock rod. Then the dust cover, then the larger washer, then the upper spring seat, then the dished washer, and finally the 2 jam nuts on top. When the jam nuts are installed, nothing will be able to move around. The jam nuts will tighten down over the spring seat, which will press and hold the dust cover and washers in place.
Here's the parts laid out in order, except for the dished washer and jam nuts:

As far as the steering rack dust boots, I couldn't get those to work well when I had GC's. The boots were really too big to fit inside and be able to move inside the ERS springs. I zip tied the tops and bottoms of the boot in place, but it usually would get stuck in the spring and come loose from the zip ties.
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Thanks for the heads-up Patrick on the steering boot covers, I am sure I can find some sort of flexible boot to use, and maybe if I use metal clamps instead of zip ties it will be more secure. Motor cycles have used this type of setup for many years, so I have some hope.
Well...even after putting the all those parts just mentioned, I thought there was still some play between the top flat washer than goes on top of the dust cover up to the bottom bushing...Also, is it bad if you don't put the bigger inner piece that holds the top and bottom bushing together? I don't have Koni one and my stock one was too skinny.
I dont have the covers on my illuminas on the rears and one has started leaking, so when i replace it im gonna get new covers for sure, prolly a good idea to have them on.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teg racer 877 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont have the covers on my illuminas on the rears and one has started leaking, so when i replace it im gonna get new covers for sure, prolly a good idea to have them on.
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Yes definitely, I would never drive a car that ever saw any sort of rain or wet streets w/o something to cover the shock pistons.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95greenteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well...even after putting the all those parts just mentioned, I thought there was still some play between the top flat washer than goes on top of the dust cover up to the bottom bushing...Also, is it bad if you don't put the bigger inner piece that holds the top and bottom bushing together? I don't have Koni one and my stock one was too skinny. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You mean the metal sleeve? You DEFINITELY need that, I would not put it on the car or drive it if you don't have it. You need to get those from Koni before putting the shocks on the car.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes definitely, I would never drive a car that ever saw any sort of rain or wet streets w/o something to cover the shock pistons.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95greenteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well...even after putting the all those parts just mentioned, I thought there was still some play between the top flat washer than goes on top of the dust cover up to the bottom bushing...Also, is it bad if you don't put the bigger inner piece that holds the top and bottom bushing together? I don't have Koni one and my stock one was too skinny. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You mean the metal sleeve? You DEFINITELY need that, I would not put it on the car or drive it if you don't have it. You need to get those from Koni before putting the shocks on the car.
I didnt put **** back on except for the bump stop, it also depends on where you live. I dont have any snow with slat out here, the worst thing that happens is it rains.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes definitely, I would never drive a car that ever saw any sort of rain or wet streets w/o something to cover the shock pistons.
You mean the metal sleeve? You DEFINITELY need that, I would not put it on the car or drive it if you don't have it. You need to get those from Koni before putting the shocks on the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good to know...thanks Patrick...I will call Koni this week or maybe pm CRXLee. You're all over these threads Patrick...DAMN, how many posts you got?
Yes definitely, I would never drive a car that ever saw any sort of rain or wet streets w/o something to cover the shock pistons.
You mean the metal sleeve? You DEFINITELY need that, I would not put it on the car or drive it if you don't have it. You need to get those from Koni before putting the shocks on the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good to know...thanks Patrick...I will call Koni this week or maybe pm CRXLee. You're all over these threads Patrick...DAMN, how many posts you got?
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