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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:24 AM
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hey guys im having problems with my drivers side mount and question ran through my head... i dont know a lot about welding but is it possible to weld my mount to the block itself? if so would it be strong enough? at first i didnt think so b/c i think the mount itself is cast and im not sure if it would work but if i could do that it would save me a lot of hassel... thanks guys
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:37 AM
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Default Re: welding motor mount to block? (Crimson_Tide)

I, Mysleft have never seen this done it really depends what type of weld you do and under which driving conditions, if it is for street then no, you can't weld it but if it's for track they it should be fine otherwise it would constantly break
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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Block is aluminum
Mount is cast iron

Nope.

If your issue is stripping out spots on the motor... driver side mount?... there is supposedly a kit out there that uses a bolt spot on front and back of motor instead... its like a big U shaped bracket that goes around.

Or take it to a shop and have the old holes helicoiled or timeserted... or if really bad... welded up and retapped.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by splitime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Block is aluminum
Mount is cast iron

Nope.

If your issue is stripping out spots on the motor... driver side mount?... there is supposedly a kit out there that uses a bolt spot on front and back of motor instead... its like a big U shaped bracket that goes around.

Or take it to a shop and have the old holes helicoiled or timeserted... or if really bad... welded up and retapped.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that would be nice but i dont have a lot of money to work with and i need this running today... yes its the drivers side mount... could i buy a helicoil kit myself at an autoparts store and do it myself? ive never done it before but i dont think it would be too hard... and what is timeserted? thanks for all the help guys
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crimson_Tide &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that would be nice but i dont have a lot of money to work with and i need this running today... yes its the drivers side mount... could i buy a helicoil kit myself at an autoparts store and do it myself? ive never done it before but i dont think it would be too hard... and what is timeserted? thanks for all the help guys
-Josh</TD></TR></TABLE>

The kits to do the job... last I checked... are not cheap.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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Default Re: welding motor mount to block? (Crimson_Tide)

even if you could weld it, it would break.

timesert is along the lines of a helicoil, but stronger since it is a whole new sleeve.

http://www.timesert.com/index.html

not real hard to do if you are have the tools , but it will probably be cheaper to find a shop that does it unless you can find a place that will sell you just the number that you need, rather than paying for the kit.

a helicoil would work too.

most places will charge 30 bucks or so to do it.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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ive called around to all the machine shops around here and all of them are worthless to me... the only one that will do it(they did it last time) are in the middle of being inspected right now and the guy who normally does it isnt even there today... i went to advance auto parts b/c i know they sell helicoil kits there but they dont have anything big enough... im trying to get this motor in and running today so if anyone could help me out and let me know where i could get one of these kits that would be great... thanks guys!
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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Default Re: welding motor mount to block? (Crimson_Tide)

do you have napa in florida? one of the shops might just sell you one even if they don't have time to do it for you.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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yeah we have napa down here... the shops told me that they dont even do it so i doubt that theyll have the kits... ill ask though
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Default Re: welding motor mount to block? (Crimson_Tide)

Have you tried calling machine shops? instead of auto shops? That would probably be your best bet... but probably requires u to take it to them.

nm: i forgot you mentioned machine shops called... duh

My local machine shops all do helicoil or timeserts... wierd that yours don't. Ask if they do helicoil AND/OR timeserts. They really should
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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i think everyone around heres being ******** ... i did find one shop that would weld it up for me and retapp it but itll be a few weeks b/c theyre backed up right now... napa did have 12mm helicoils for sale... do you guys think that if i took JB weld and filled the holes in and had a helicoil in that it would last a few weeks until i can get it over to the machine shop? lol im really desperate now
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Default Re: welding motor mount to block? (Crimson_Tide)

why not helicoil it correctly?

i've also never heard of a machine shop that wouldn't do what you are looking for.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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yeah neither have i until i called around today... i have one last place to call and see if they'll weld it up for me and retapp it
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Default Re: welding motor mount to block? (Crimson_Tide)

alright that last machine shop was backed up too, but good news! i found a small performance parts store that carried a ton of them ... went over and got a whole kit that included about 8 helicoils for $40... thats the same price if i had a shop do it but this way i get to learn something too... ill let you guys know how it turns out
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Default Re: welding motor mount to block? (Crimson_Tide)

if you have the rest of the things that you need it should be no problem. take pics!
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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ill have pics up soon... what other tools do i need? the kit came with the coils themselves, installation tool, and a tap... i used a wrench to rotate the tap and its done
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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when i bought my block, i had found out that where the mount bolts up on the drivers side had been helicoiled and part of the block broke off while i was driving, so i just JB welded the piece of the block back in and used a grade 8 bolt in the remaing helicoiled hole and it is still holding up after 2 months

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Default Re: welding motor mount to block? (Crimson_Tide)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crimson_Tide &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ill have pics up soon... what other tools do i need? the kit came with the coils themselves, installation tool, and a tap... i used a wrench to rotate the tap and its done
-Josh</TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds like you are set assuming the hole size is right (which it is if they had the 12mm helicoil). i didn't know all that came in the kit, having never bought one that way. good luck.
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