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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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I don't own an S2k myself.. but posting for a friend...


the problem started as a kinda wirring noise in the diff

well the other day while cruising about 60-65 mph..

Blam.. pulls over.. all the diff fluid on the ground, car wont move..

ring and pinion is my guess..

anyways.. towed it to Honda...

they say they have to change the entire unit as a whole.. and are quoting 3,300 bux for the diff alone.. that's before labor oils etc..


the car is no longer under warranty and will have to come out of his own pocket...

so I'm here lookin for alternatives.. buying a used OEM diff, aftermarket diff, swap another diff from a diff car.. etc etc..

i'm tech savy and do my own wrench work.. i'm just wondering.. is it possible to change the ring and pinion, fix the pumpkin etc.. or is it chewed up and a gonner now?

the car is still at the dealer and i haven't had a chance to see it myself.. but i'm trying to do some home work on the subject..

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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People sell pumpkins as a whole for around $1000. Check S2ki also.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda S2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">an AP1 rear diff can go for 500-750 bucks

AP2 Rear diff can go for 750-1000

the items above are pumpkins


BTW be careful who you buy one from. I got mines from an s2KI mod. Before that though I was scammed and sold a bad diff. Alot of bad s2k diffs out there that people lie about being in good shape.

I lost 500 for the diff and 500 for the labor on my last one..

the new one i picked up for 500 and 500 install

so I lost 1k because of some scammmer</TD></TR></TABLE>

You found some VERY cheap diff. Most go for 1200-1400 USED from a junk yard
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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i saw one on ebay today i think for around 500...bidding not over yet...
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 02:03 AM
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so there's no way to Repair it right?

it has to be replaced?
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 03:51 AM
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most likely... typically when gears come part in a small housing at 60-65 mph.. the odds are likely that inside of the housing (pumpkin) is all sorts of fracked up....

take it apart and see, plus there is going to be metal chunks everywhere!!
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ottoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so there's no way to Repair it right?

it has to be replaced?</TD></TR></TABLE>

all depends on what aspect of the diff went BOOM...

best bet and easiest thing to do is get a new one.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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honda replaced mine after the warranty expired. i'd keep working on them
i got a brand new unit and paid 280 labor for the install.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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no way id let them charge me $3k. Id use used parts and rebuild it myself
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda S2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We should have a differential sticky

Warning members to service it
What are signs of a broken diff and ect</TD></TR></TABLE>

most of the failures are due to abuse...alot of people launch the s2000 and the diff goes boom although sometimes they just fail...
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda S2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My diff broke in the middle of highway driving. </TD></TR></TABLE>

like i said, SOMETIMES they just fail
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda S2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My diff broke in the middle of highway driving. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's exactly how this one went as well...


was yours irreperably damaged? or u just didn't bother?

i'm collecting the car from the dealer today on a flat bed takin it home

i'll try to drop the Pumpkin and crack it open...

see how bad it is on the inside... and if there's any hope for it...
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Ricks2k.com will sell you a comptech differential for 800 if your core is broken.
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 18psi sohc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ricks2k.com will sell you a comptech differential for 800 if your core is broken.</TD></TR></TABLE>

comptech is not better than an OEM ap2 diff core...
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

like i said, SOMETIMES they just fail </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah right!

Sometimes they just fail when a lame driver is behind the wheel, t00!

See Honda S2000.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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Maybe it isn't as good as an ap2 diff but i'm sure it wont break as easy as an ap1 diff and 769 dollars for a new diff is alot better than 3k for an oem diff..
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 18psi sohc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe it isn't as good as an ap2 diff but i'm sure it wont break as easy as an ap1 diff and 769 dollars for a new diff is alot better than 3k for an oem diff..</TD></TR></TABLE>

3k for OEM is stupid when you can ebay an OEM diff for around 800$ or buy a spare from an s2k member on the site.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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I had the exact problem with mine. I had a whinning noise for a while and then I was on the interstate, downshifted to make lane change and exit, and BOOM, diff housing blew all to hell after a gear broke. I found one in a junk yard from a 2004 with around 5k miles for 500 bux. Been going great now for about 15k miles.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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call LKQ have 4 in stock, I should know i work there 209-464-1111 ext 72
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P-Dubb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">call LKQ have 4 in stock, I should know i work there 209-464-1111 ext 72 :thumbu: </TD></TR></TABLE>


and how much does each one go for?

and how much do they weigh? any idea?
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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my brother was lucky that he did not have to replace anything but the gears. you can pick the gears up for cheap from kia for around 150 or less. also getting them cryotreated would make them stronger. honda was wanting around 1500 but we took the car to the local v8 dude and he charged 250 labor and did a good job even though he never worked on a honda rear
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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hey guys,

someone told me that a Nissan Rear end could be retrofitted onto the S2k with some minor mods..

does anyone know if there's any truth to that? or is it just someone talking outta their ***?
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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the silvia rear end can be fitted in the s2k but is it worth the time and money, no. only one person has done it. he was planning on selling a kit to make it all work but he has yet to get it to work perfectly
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ottoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys,

someone told me that a Nissan Rear end could be retrofitted onto the S2k with some minor mods..

does anyone know if there's any truth to that? or is it just someone talking outta their ***?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you consider a whole new diff mounts and a custom driveshalft "minor mods", then yes.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Hey guys, if you would like to know more about nissan diff conversion, check the link out.

http://www.difftechnics.com.au/Acura.html
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