ya its me again, i got alot of info from my last post about accord performance parts and was wondering what would be the easiest way to get like 20 to 30 hp or more out of the motor like with parts and not like turbo or nitrous, sry if these questions are kinda noobish but im kinda new to honda's

thanks

Jesse

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 898civichatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya its me again, i got alot of info from my last post about accord performance parts and was wondering what would be the easiest way to get like 20 to 30 hp or more out of the motor like with parts and not like turbo or nitrous, sry if these questions are kinda noobish but im kinda new to honda's

thanks

Jesse</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know most people tell you to start with the basic bolt-ons (intake, header, exhaust) but those really wont give you the gains you are looking for. you could try getting a better cam, maybe a new gear as well, and some higher compression pistons (i dont know how hard f22 pistons are to find). with all that and a good tune, i think you could pull that off... there are a few good things to do, but overall im guessing that it will involve a fair amount of money to do, but who knows maybe im wrong.

 

im not sure how much gain you will get but i am going to guestimate on this
Intake 8hp
Cat-Back exhaust ( 10-15)
turbonator! lol (upto 35hp doubtful lmao)
Jet Ecu Package (will adjust air/fuel and give you a little more uuhhhmmmpphhh)
Port and Polish (a couple hp)
MagnaFlow High flow cat (prob like 8)
if you have heavy subs take them out and your call will roll alot better
AEM Fuel Rail
Fuel Pressure regulator
H22 or f22 DOHC Head
Pully Kit
Adjustable Cam Gear


again there are estimates on the gain im not a professional at this lol

 

also, you are an OBD1 car, so you could also get your ECU chipped alot easier, which could let you run hondata or some other programs... a chipped ecu would make tuning alot easier which could help you get more power

 

reground cam
h23 intake manifold
throttle body
intake
header
high flow cat/test pipe
2.25" catback
basic tune up
possibly pulleys and lightweight flywheel (to reduce rotating mass and increase response)
light weight smaller diameter wheels (15-16"...again to reduce rotational mass)
chipped ecu with a tune

altogether this should give you around the increase you are looking for while still remaining mostly bolt on (slight modding may be required for the IM swap).

 

ok thanks alot

 

best bet H22a or turbo....both cost about the same

 

easy 20-30hp w/o FI on f22.... none.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordisslow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not sure how much gain you will get but i am going to guestimate on this
Intake 8hp
Cat-Back exhaust ( 10-15)
turbonator! lol (upto 35hp doubtful lmao)
Jet Ecu Package (will adjust air/fuel and give you a little more uuhhhmmmpphhh)
Port and Polish (a couple hp)
MagnaFlow High flow cat (prob like 8)
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your guesstimates are WAY TOO HIGH there.

try:
intake = 2-3 hp
cat back = 2-3 hp
turbonator = GARBAGE
high flow cat = 2 hp
jet ECU = nice HP gain but you have to run 93 octane afterward

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best answer yet!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Group A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ur kidding right? 10-15 hp with a cat back out of our F series?? dats quite a gain even by turbo'd motor standards
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my guesses might be off and thats why i said im not sure about the gains

 

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your guesstimates are WAY TOO HIGH there.

try:
intake = 2-3 hp
cat back = 2-3 hp
turbonator = GARBAGE
high flow cat = 2 hp
jet ECU = nice HP gain but you have to run 93 octane afterward


best answer yet!</TD></TR></TABLE>

thank you for elaborating that for all of us well atleast he (she) got an idea what mods to put on besides the turbonator lol

 

man where can i get some of these espacally the turbonater lol...i didnt know you can chip the accord ecu

 

higher compression pistons and a little bit of work to the head...thankfully the stock block has iron sleeves, so you won't need to get those installed to mate with the forged pistons...you can easily see 20-30 hp that way, if not more...but you probably won't see 30 hp w/o internal work...

 

93accordnos sold his accord and took his fully built f22 and put it into a civic. Made 176 whp and ran a 13.2 all motor. Hes running crower rods, wiesco 13:1 pistons, k series ferrera valves crower dual valve springs and titanium retainers, darton sleeves and an SCE copper HG. Hes planning make a lot of power on the motor w/ nitrous.

13:1CR is alot of compression for just 176whp, needless to say it will take alot of work for 20-30 whp

 

^^ what's really sad is that for the money he spent to do all that work he probably could have installed a turbo system and seen 400+ horses.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">best bet H22a or turbo....both cost about the same</TD></TR></TABLE>

amen