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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Default when I first start it in the morning it won't go into first gear but after a few min. it shifts fine

the first 3 or 4 minutes I really have to force it into first, after that and the rest of the day everything is fine?
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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When is the last time you changed the tranny fluid? Stick with Honda MTF.


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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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the same thing happens with me and i just changed my tranny fluid...i think it's just cuz its too cold to work smoothly.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Try letting the engine completely warming up then see what happens.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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"the same thing happens with me and i just changed my tranny fluid...i think it's just cuz its too cold to work smoothly"

did that solve your problem? I've changed it with honda MTF about a year ago, only 10k miles or so. I just hate changing the tranny fluid as it's hard to fill it up
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by piggydog &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"the same thing happens with me and i just changed my tranny fluid...i think it's just cuz its too cold to work smoothly"

did that solve your problem? I've changed it with honda MTF about a year ago, only 10k miles or so. I just hate changing the tranny fluid as it's hard to fill it up</TD></TR></TABLE>
i didn't find it hard to fill up, but anyway it didn't really solve the first gear problem. it made shifting through all the other gears a lot smoother but i still have the problem with it not wanting to go into first after i first start it up. i find that if i let it warm up for about five minutes before i drive it, it will slip right into first when i want it to, so i'm guessing its just a cold tranny that's the problemo
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Default Re: when I first start it in the morning it won't go into first gear but after a few min. it shifts

Try going through all the gears like you wer shifting. thats what i use to do and it works fine now.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Manual tranny fluid has to be warmed before it is at full effectiveness. It is pretty much common to not be able to go straight into first when cold. Make sure your not rolling when u try to put it in also. Its easiest to put it in first at a dead stop, especially when cold.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueLude 94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try going through all the gears like you wer shifting. thats what i use to do and it works fine now.</TD></TR></TABLE>

+ warming engine up helps too.

Changing the MTF didn't help at all in my case.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Default Re: when I first start it in the morning it won't go into first gear but after a few min. it shifts

im sorry if there is no such thing but i know that i had the same problem and its just cuz my clutch fluid(?) was to low. not sure if thats the tranny fluid but it was to low and i just added to it and it worked fine.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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^ Come to think of it, after I replaced the clutch master & slave cylinder I had no more problems shifting into first.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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I've always had some issues with 1st and reverse, but I can always get it to go in by pumping the clutch a couple times. I can also push the shifter as far as it will go before catching, then slowly let out the clutch and it will pop in.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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My car does that too, even after i warm it up, changed the tranny fluid, changed the clutch fluid,and it still does it. I thought it was just my car, but since a lot of you guys have had this problem is normal for preludes?
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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bump for any more ideas? Which cylinder should I change first?
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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Bubs, the problem you're describing happens when the engaging teeth from the synchro collar to the gear have worn down and are contacting one another at the tips instead of meshing with one another. It's like the tips of your fingers touching as opposed to your fingers meshing.

So, the shifter doesn't engage completely.

When the car is in motion or you let the clutch out, you're rotating the drivetrain
assembly and it slides the teeth to mesh into one another.

Then, the shifter pops into gear like normal with regular hand pressure.

Without that hand pressure, you'll hear the engaging gears lightly grind on one another.

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