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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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quick ? would the CEL cause no vtec? or just come on at engagement point?

locals argue so thought id ask here
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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i'm pretty sure vtec would still work, the ecu only looks for knock at certain rpms, but I know that once you throw the code, the ecu retards your ignition timing, so you'll lose power throught the entire rpm band.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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Yes the knock sensor cel will cause no vtec as well as put your car into limp mode.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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thats what i thought also...CEL=no tec..but some say different..

ne one else have a thought??
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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It's from personal experience. Get rid of the cell because your car probably runs like absolute **** right now.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK k kay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes the knock sensor cel will cause no vtec as well as put your car into limp mode.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its not limp mode, it just pulls so much timing that it feels like it. limp mode has a rev limiter, and I know from experience that this cel doesn't cause that.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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anyone else have say-so on the CEL to cause no vtec?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IHateJDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

its not limp mode, it just pulls so much timing that it feels like it. limp mode has a rev limiter, and I know from experience that this cel doesn't cause that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well when I had the knock sensor cel it wouldn't let me rev higher than my vtec engagement.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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mine defintely goes past engagement point, but the CEL comes n no mmmbhhahh
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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hmmm..bump cause im about to eat some chicken parm.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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My knock sensor wire is disconnected and I still have V-TEC and can rev as high as I want.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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agreed witj above guy. My knock sensor wire is screwed somewhere and the ecu isnt reading it. I still have vtec, and rev as high as i like. I just notice I'm not pulling as hard as I should. I'm going to just get a chipped p28 when wallets approves of it that elminates knock sensor.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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so your throwing the CEL? or just screwed it somewhere else so it doesnt cause the CEL to come on
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Default Re: knock sensor..CEL? (B18cHatch06)

A knock sencor CEL either means the sensor is not working, or the wire is broken. It will not put your car into limp mode, and VTEC will still engage. Although you MIGHT have some power loss.

Why is the CEL light on? Mine had a problem on my B16 because the sensor wasn't tight enough in the block. Kept coming loose and throwing a CEL.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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I have this CEL too.. I don't really feel my vtec kicking in but I bought the car with it on so I never felt it with vtec. I'm with one of the guys who said they are getting a chipped p28, once I get some stuff paid for that is what I am buying next.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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the CEL comes on cuz i have no knock sensor at all...

but that will all be changed soon...just ordered a kenji chipped p28 off his site..
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18cHatch06 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone else have say-so on the CEL to cause no vtec?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had a knock CEL for a while and still "p0pped" m4d VTAK
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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lucky u..

im having my harness re-wired since i already checked the solenoid n vss, which they are good..thanks
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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Default Re: knock sensor..CEL? (B18cHatch06)

do any of you guys know if a jdm p30 on an 00si would do this same thing....on my stock ecu running in obd2 i have no cel's, but on obd1 one, i get one, shouldnt it be the other way around....
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