well...yes there is another...Ive search and read through countless posts but its just hard to put it all together...

I just ordered a moroso breather from summit and i plan to install it this way.



So here is the setup im looking at doing.

As you can tell the drain has been setup to drain backinto the block. But I might not do this and just empty the container.

With the open element on the Catch Can I will have to plug the hole on the Intake Manifold (even though its not in the picture).

If I do deciede to remove the open element I can run the top part of the can to the hole on the IM thats been blocked.


I guess I just want people to verify this setup.

Oh this is not on a Forced Induction setup.

Thanks
-Dan.

 

don't run it into the IM unless you have to pass a smog check. oil in the intake charge only invites detonation and foul plugs. also, from your diagram, it seems like no oil will drain back into the block if the pressure from both holes in the block is higher than that in the can. if you want a drain-back, you mgiht have to tap the oil pan.

 

that looks like the Endyn style setup... you wouldnt pass emmissions with a vented catch can anyway best bet if you dont want to run the hose to your intake just plug it... the catch can will get rid of most all the crankcase gasses anyway... unless you want vaccum on it then run the hose to the intake

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slofu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't run it into the IM unless you have to pass a smog check. oil in the intake charge only invites detonation and foul plugs. also, from your diagram, it seems like no oil will drain back into the block if the pressure from both holes in the block is higher than that in the can. if you want a drain-back, you mgiht have to tap the oil pan. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Im in Indiana...They don't care about the enviroment so smog check isn't an issue.

I was under the assumption that crank case venilation isn't pure oil? otherwise it wouldn;'t be able to travel up the hose...

I thought that this was a gassy/oil mixture and when it went into the catch can the mixture seperated into oil and vapor...The oil would drain back into the block since it is in essenece heavier than the mixture. and the vapor would be released into the atomospher or back into the IM or exhuast.

 

I took the simpler way out (read... lazy). I ran the black box on the back and from the pcv to the catch can (vented also). Then from the port on the left in your picture to the catch can, and the drain back into that line. Works fine from what I can see. Just used a stock honda fitting (no anti-siphon like the endyn modified ones) and found that I had to keep the can as high up as I could mount it or it filled quite quickly Once I got it high enough, its worked fine I think (i don't know of any real way to "test" its functionality).

I also still ran the VC to the intake... but I put a small inline filter from home depot inline. It catches any of the junk that happens to get out of the VC.

Oh and my catchcan was a chromed (cheap/used ) PS reservoir, which had a port on the bottom, 2 on the side, a level gauge and a screw cap. I hole sawed through the center of the cap and installed a filter... I also used lawn mower foam filter stuff for baffling inside it.


Modified by splitime at 11:48 AM 12/28/2005

 

I just vent from the PCV and the black box as well and plugged the intake manifold inlet..

don't do the drainback unless you tap the pan.. personally, I just drain mine.. doesn't fill fast..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mstewar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't do the drainback unless you tap the pan.. personally, I just drain mine.. doesn't fill fast..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't like it trickling back down one of the T'd incoming lines? I'm curious as to why.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by splitime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You don't like it trickling back down one of the T'd incoming lines? I'm curious as to why.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL..

FYI, for anyone who cares.. I use a Fastline catch can that I bought off of RJ..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mstewar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
don't do the drainback unless you tap the pan.. personally, I just drain mine.. doesn't fill fast..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm curious to know why as well? Whats the difference if the oil is entering the pan or the back of the block?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm curious to know why as well? Whats the difference if the oil is entering the pan or the back of the block?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, where are you porting it back into? maybe I misinterpreted your drawing..

it will be tougher to mount it high enough to get it to drainback I'd think anyhow, if you didn't go to the oil pan..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by splitime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also used lawn mower foam filter stuff for baffling inside it.
Modified by splitime at 11:48 AM 12/28/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

is that really nececery?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXnorway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

is that really nececery?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well if you have nothing in there to kind of obstruct the pass of the gases/oil, it will just vent in and out of your catch can...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mstewar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't do the drainback unless you tap the pan.. personally, I just drain mine.. doesn't fill fast..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought about trying to get it to drain back that way.. but in my case, I didn't feel like I had enough of an angle, and I didn't like the possibility of gasses spewing through the bottom of the pan and potentially squirting oil all the way out the top of the can.

Another thought... if you DO find it filling fast, imagine where that oil goes?

-Chris, who has a catchcan by his battery, and has found his passenger front and rear tires/wheels/brakes coated in motor oil on the track. Fun!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
-Chris, who has a catchcan by his battery, and has found his passenger front and rear tires/wheels/brakes coated in motor oil on the track. Fun!</TD></TR></TABLE>

that sir, is a LOT of oil..

 

I thought with the proper setup it should be pulling a slight vaccum through the catch can.

 

thats what I though too... but I guess some people dont like to connect a hose to their intake... you could always run a slash cut tube in your header to create a vaccum

 

If you have boost, your intake manifold is under pressure, your crankcase is under pressure, and there's no vacuum anywhere (unless you slashcut the exhaust).

So, yah, under normal driving you can pull a vacuum in the PCV, but at WOT, there isn't one. All you have is exhaust gas pressure building in the crankcase/valve cover, and it has to go somewhere.

 

I have it set up the way in the diagram but i noticed at the last hpde the can tended to fill fast and started to come back out the breather filter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenintegra16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have it set up the way in the diagram but i noticed at the last hpde the can tended to fill fast and started to come back out the breather filter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So you did or didn't have the drainback setup?

 

i had it the way the diagram is with the drainback

 

it's probably not draining back..? how high is it mounted?

 

Thats what I was thinking...There had to be somethign preventing the drainback from occuring. And where you boosted or na?