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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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ok here is the problem....

i want to get the car up to 550-600whp next year!
wasnt enough time this year to get their this year.

the stock lsd needs to be upgraded,
do i up grade the stock itr tranny, or get an other tranny
do the lsd in it?

i like the gearing in the r, so i probably would go with the b16 tranny?

what do yall think about cryogenic treating for the tranny?

what have yall done?
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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get a nice clutch that can hold the power and shift properly, the tranny can take it.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ossabB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a nice clutch that can hold the power and shift properly, the tranny can take it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

shifting properly and 600 whp dont always come easily

i would recommend carbon synchros from gearspeed

it only takes a few mistakes with that kind of power to own your tranny

some say its all user error....

but thats partially horse ****, if you have 600 whp, good clutch or not, the tranny wasnt designed for 600 whp, and neither were the synchros

rev matching will help a ton and smooth shifts, but like i said...with 600 whp...i would get axles, clutch, lsd, carbon synchros

it would be about the same as putting 50lbs of weight on a glass window that was designed to support 20lbs. Do it softly and your probably ok, but sooner or later it's going to break
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Might as well run a spool with that power.

The problem will come when the syncro's dont fully engage during a full throttle upshift and you're left half-way in the gear. Thats when the gear will explode.

You might get some better responses from the folks in the FI forum seeing as there are a bunch of 500+whp Hondas, but only a handful of them are ITR's.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Also from what Marshal said, if your hell bent on sticking with the R tranny at that power level, be prepaired to have the biggest left leg known to man. You will be shifting ALOT. Ever consider an LS tranny? Or possibly throwing in a taller FD?
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shifting properly and 600 whp dont always come easily</TD></TR></TABLE>

600whp doesn't make shifting any more difficult.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it only takes a few mistakes with that kind of power to own your tranny</TD></TR></TABLE>

What kind of problems have you personally run into?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some say its all user error....

but thats partially horse ****, if you have 600 whp, good clutch or not, the tranny wasnt designed for 600 whp, and neither were the synchros</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've run a 10 second 1/4 mile with stock gears. The car had a good clutch and LSD, but otherwise was stock. It was no harder to shift than a stock ITR.

Do you have any firsthand experience or are you talking out of your ***? You always just seem to bitch and moan about how weak Honda trannies are, just because you don't how to shift properly.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 03:04 AM
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Contact the guys as LHT performance in Tampa, FL. There is a guy there, John who has over 500 WHP in an R.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 04:24 AM
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Kaaz LSD plus Kaaz taller final....longer first would be nice too

select your clutch accordingly....
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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.....just keep the stock itr tranny and go from there.

If it's good enough for 9's, it's good enough for you:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1428605
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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I got stock tranny with 500whp everything is fine

well the clutch and pp has been changed
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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ok right now i am at 446whp...
the tranny is coming down to do a main bearing.

i have a ACT extreme clutch and pp.

i wanna do an lsd! i have a buddy with a EG hatch pushing 648whp.....he is on his 2ed ls tranny and broke 1 b16 tranny and a gsr tranny....all within 2years.

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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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i can go tru 5 tranny in a month

but when u drive a high hp car you have to use ur brain a bit

or u gonna spent a sh|t load of $$$
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