i need some professional advice. whats the benefit of having a supercharger installed on a h22,is it woth it? ive looked in most of the forums and no one talks about supercharge everyone is so **** about turbo. i dont have the money or patients for turbo and i like the sound of having a car with some boost,but not giving me headaches in the long-run.i basically need PROS and CONS

 

Wow. Just...wow.

Don't get it. Trust me on this.

 

everyone is **** about turbo on a honda because its the right way to go, but thats ok, buy your supercharger, spend way more than you would on a turbo and buy that, and then after your car blows up, make a thread saying "i should have gotten a turbo" but look on the bright side, if you dont mess up your supercharger im sure you could sell it to some queer in a mustang

 

NO superchargers are great. Just no one makes a bracket for a centrifugal supercharger on an h22. the reason everyone loves turbos is because there is no support from vortech or procharger.

I dont like roots types so I shy away from the jackson racing supercharger.

the hardest part of the supercharger is the bracket and lining up the belt and the ratios of the pullies. The rest is just buying things. all the same sutff as the turbo. (I.E. blowoff valve. pipeing, intercooler, management (s300 mmmm), injectors.)

an h22 isnt a b16. I think b16s and some b18s like turbos.
And I dont want to hear you cant make power from a supercharger because you can just no one tries it because every says dont do it.

Do the centrifugal route. h22.org used to have a dyno plot of an vortech'd h22. Tons of power. to bad its down now.

 

of course your going to get tons of power, if your spending 5k on a supercharger kit you better get tons of power, look im not saying its a fact that a supercharger wouldnt be good on a H22, im saying in my opinion id stick with turbo for a 4 cyl and only supercharge a car with a bigger block, (3.2 or higher V6 or V8) of course thats just me and you can do whatever you want

 

you all sound like you know nothing -about anything....

not alot of people go the SC route because on smaller displacement motors, there are not alot of options available. in theory, a turbo is easier to add to an NA motor than an SC, because despite what you make think, turbos have a simplier design, and its easier to put a turbo into a honda based on how the motor is oriented in relationship to the radiator core and the firewall

 

why are you guys even talking about this? H22a + supercharger in a 4th gen is NOT going to fit! If you don't like turbo then strap on some really big bottles of NOS and spary the **** out of you engine. Let me guess this accord is your only car and is your daily driver.

 

that makes since but there has to be an exception where i can supercharge, u sound like u know what your talking about, so tell me the exceptions if there are any. also, will a supercharger even fit?

 

yes it is my dailey for now, everyone is turbo but they never have there care more than 2 yrs. theres always a problem or the car can never run consistantly for a few months. thats why i was thinking maybe a supercharger,people say supercharger is more expensive, hell no, turbo is expensive for the installation and long term maintenance.

 

superchargers are more expensive from the beginning, turbos do sometimes become more expensive in the longrun, but if your talking about supercharging a H22, there could be an exception to that theory. I dont know who fw190bvi was talking to, but i never said i knew alot about superchargers, however i do know that they are a similar design, and like i said, putting it on a smaller motor isnt a good idea, like i said, mid size-big v6s and v8s are the supercharge route.

 

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BINGO!!!

the supercharger will not even fit on the H22 in an accord w/o notching the firewall.

 

supercharge your rice fool, haha but seriously man why dont you just go turbo? i mean if your looking to spend a shitload in the beginning for a supercharger why not get a bad *** turbo that wont run down as fast, your friends probably took the boost controller out of their cars and ran the **** out of the turbo for those 2 years, when all they had to do was set it to what they wanted, tsk tsk

 

It's already been said that a supercharger will NOT fit into an H22A Accord. /thread

 

HondaMike, you have no clue what you are talking about. Also your last post made no sense at all.

To the original poster, a supercharger won't fit in your Accord. There's not enough room for the pulley because the inner fender blocks it. I heard once that someone makes/made a kit for a D series motor where the compressor bolts up in place of the A/C compressor. Try looking into that, it's probably the only option you have. And if you don't have money for a turbo, you don't have money for a s/c. They will both give you problems in the long run. Boost is boost. Plus your engine has a high compression ratio and FRM sleeves. That equals more $$. I hope you stick with it though. I would like to see a supercharged H22 in an accord.

 

oook slow down buddy, first of all, please dont judge a book by its cover, im not a very serious and technical person, but that doesnt mean i dont know my ****, i have no clue what im talking about to you because your reading my posts in a thread that im not trying to give serious and technical information about, im simply joking around, sorry if i do not amuse you master

 

here is the deal, like others have said a supercharger will not fit, a supercharger is a good way to make power, with the super charger you will see better bottome end and into the midrange but will not have the peak power of a turbo. both can blow up ur motor its all about how much power you are making. stock h22's can handle about 300 wheel horse power and that is with a good standalone. the advantage to the turbo is that it is "Free horse power" because it uses exhaust. while the supercharger utalized the crank and actually takes power to run. the supercharger in the long run is a lil harder on the motor. turbos are the way to go on 4 cylinder motors

 

I dont know if you guys know this but jackson racing is not the only company that makes superchargers. so stop saying a supercharger will not fit. because a jackson racing will not fit.

just because someone hasnt done it doesnt mean it wont work. there have been jackson racing superchargers that run in 4th gens ludes. and there have been other superchargers that have been run on the front of the h22. (procharger, vortech, and a toyota supercharger.) it is just very rare because there is not support there is no production company that makes a bolt on bracket for the h22.

thats why you dont see supercharged h22s.

I like superchargers you like turbos I am not having this arguement. I think turbos are awsome for high revving cars. but you can also see what kinda of horsepower vortech made on the stock s2000.

I like horsepower any safe way you can make it. I like a supercharged h22s because noone has them.

I hope you go with it and find someone to make a bracket,.

 

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Yes it does, my friend is running a Jackson supercharger on its h23a vtec and NO it dosnt hit the firewall (wich wasnt modified in any way). The strap is a little hard to fit since it passes right next to the shock tower and the left motor mount, but a little grinding will make it a perfect fit.

Since a picture is worth a tousand words:




Stop saying it wont fit

 

the jrsc doesnt fit as shipped by Jackson Racing ships it as far as i know, you do have to mod and fab a bit to make it fit.


and a supercharger is no more reliable than a turbo, its jsut harder to make more power with it, aka turning up the boost.

 

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and wich part exactly would need modification? it fits bolt-on on the intake, no need for modifications there. The straps align just right, but like I said you need to do some minor grinding to prevent rubbing at WOT. Also the firewall isnt an issue.

Ok, its a REALY tight fit, so what. If you're complaining about how the supercharger being hard to install, dont even think about a turbo...

The good thing about a Jackson SC:
- Its bolt on with very little modification to the car such as grinding parts to clear the belt
- It allows instant boost when needed, no lag
- A bypass throttle thignie (dont remember the name) allows the engine to run with ou without boost, depending on how the throttle is opened. So the 8 psi only comes at WOT.

The downsides are :
- It is expensive if you look at the dollar/psi ratio. A turbo will give you more power for the same price.
- It can only reach about 8 or maby 10 psy if you play with the pulley size, but you wont reach crazy amount of boost with a jackson SC.

 

the installs i have seen have all used a bracket that was had fabricated to allow the pulley system to go even higher, though it still required removal of material off the strut tower. and without solid motor mounts one of the cars actually had the belt rubbing against the strut itself where it stuck up.

 

I have to agree to the fact that it very close to the mount and yes it rubs, unless you shave a bit of material off the mount. Its just precision tuning so everything runs smoothly without touching anything. I would have to ask the owner of the SC accord but there is nothing custom in there. Maby he bought a plate or something like you said to change the angle of the pulley but its not apparent in the pictures and he never told anybody about such a system...

And I would also say that solid mounts are a must with that SC. When my friend installed it he bought new oem mounts all around, but it took about 3 week and they were all cracked or riped from the kick the engine gives when you mash the accelerator. A day at the track probably didnt help