ITB's or B16 TB?
hey guys im a little new to the all motor forum here so ill give you a little rundown on my setup on my '91 hatch... its not much:
d16z6
dx tranny
p30 ecu
exedy stage 2 clutch
aem intake
k&n filter
no name 4-2-1 header
2.25" mandrel bent exhaust
lots of suspension work
14" yoko slicks
tonight i aquired an ITB setup using cbr 954's... i know they wont give me a huge power gain... i have about a day and a half to put them on before i take my car to the last 1/4 mile track event of the season... my question is do you guys think that its pheasable to get the ITB"s done in that amount of time? my plans were to tap a hole and press fit a line for coolant flow to the head, smooth out the intake runners and clean the whole assembly... ive done quite a bit of research on the ITB's... that should help out a lot... do you guys think that the 954 injectors will cause my motor to run too lean? would octane booster help? also would it be ok to just take most of the vacume lines off and cap off the nipples they were connected to and just run a line to the brake booster, fpr, and map? thanks a lot for the help... heres a pic of what i have so far... all i need is a little bit of hardware to complete it:

-Josh
d16z6
dx tranny
p30 ecu
exedy stage 2 clutch
aem intake
k&n filter
no name 4-2-1 header
2.25" mandrel bent exhaust
lots of suspension work
14" yoko slicks
tonight i aquired an ITB setup using cbr 954's... i know they wont give me a huge power gain... i have about a day and a half to put them on before i take my car to the last 1/4 mile track event of the season... my question is do you guys think that its pheasable to get the ITB"s done in that amount of time? my plans were to tap a hole and press fit a line for coolant flow to the head, smooth out the intake runners and clean the whole assembly... ive done quite a bit of research on the ITB's... that should help out a lot... do you guys think that the 954 injectors will cause my motor to run too lean? would octane booster help? also would it be ok to just take most of the vacume lines off and cap off the nipples they were connected to and just run a line to the brake booster, fpr, and map? thanks a lot for the help... heres a pic of what i have so far... all i need is a little bit of hardware to complete it:
-Josh
****, you better get on the ball if you have a day and a half. try it, no harm...unless of course you screw somethign up because you threw on a huge mod in a day and a half....
yeah i know... im going to go put them on here in a sec... so should the cbr 954 injectors work ok with my motor? the impedance and everything is the same? or should i swap in my stock rail and injectors? also does anyone know if i can use my stock fpr or should i get an aftermarket one? thanks for all the help guys
-Josh
-Josh
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That looks like a pretty sweet setup you got there.
Those look like 600 f4is though not 954's. You probally will need some tunning though. So what did you give for such a setup? Where did you find it at?
Those look like 600 f4is though not 954's. You probally will need some tunning though. So what did you give for such a setup? Where did you find it at?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks like a pretty sweet setup you got there.
Those look like 600 f4is though not 954's. You probally will need some tunning though. So what did you give for such a setup? Where did you find it at? </TD></TR></TABLE>
please tell me this is a joke... lol... i could have sworn that i was told that they were 954's... i guess the guy who i traded my msd box to had no clue what he was talking about... haha
-Josh
*UPDATE*
the ITB's are on my car at a buddies house... after hours of battling the bottom middle 12mm nut on the IM and trying to get the ITB's back together(i took them apart to port them a little bit and clean them up) all i have to do is extend the fuel line, hook up the injectors, hook up throttle cable, find a way to get some vaccume to the brake booster, switch outer wires on tps, and plug in tps and map sensors... then its time to tune!!
Those look like 600 f4is though not 954's. You probally will need some tunning though. So what did you give for such a setup? Where did you find it at? </TD></TR></TABLE>please tell me this is a joke... lol... i could have sworn that i was told that they were 954's... i guess the guy who i traded my msd box to had no clue what he was talking about... haha
-Josh
*UPDATE*
the ITB's are on my car at a buddies house... after hours of battling the bottom middle 12mm nut on the IM and trying to get the ITB's back together(i took them apart to port them a little bit and clean them up) all i have to do is extend the fuel line, hook up the injectors, hook up throttle cable, find a way to get some vaccume to the brake booster, switch outer wires on tps, and plug in tps and map sensors... then its time to tune!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crimson_Tide »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
please tell me this is a joke... lol... i could have sworn that i was told that they were 954's... i guess the guy who i traded my msd box to had no clue what he was talking about... haha
-Josh
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Nope I told you they were 600 F4i's, pay attention brother.
So you get it running yet?
please tell me this is a joke... lol... i could have sworn that i was told that they were 954's... i guess the guy who i traded my msd box to had no clue what he was talking about... haha
-Josh
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Nope I told you they were 600 F4i's, pay attention brother.
So you get it running yet?
nope, i just woke up and ill be going over to my buddies to finish it up(hopefully) and get it running... those injector plugs are going to be a pain in the *** though... do i need to trim them up or anything? im halfway thinking about depinning all the injector plugs and solering each individual wire to the injectors and then heatshrinking them... do you guys think itll work? this thing WILL be running by tonight!! lol
-Josh
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sounds ghetto but should work. I'm sure someone on here posted that they are the same as obd1 injectors, but obviously that is incorrect.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds ghetto but should work. I'm sure someone on here posted that they are the same as obd1 injectors, but obviously that is incorrect.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i did a little bit of searching around and found this pic on d-series.org:

do you guys think that this is what im supposed to do to my injector clips?
-Josh
i did a little bit of searching around and found this pic on d-series.org:
do you guys think that this is what im supposed to do to my injector clips?
-Josh
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crimson_Tide »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i did a little bit of searching around and found this pic on d-series.org:

do you guys think that this is what im supposed to do to my injector clips?
-Josh</TD></TR></TABLE>
you have to be logged in to view it. try copying and pasting it.
i did a little bit of searching around and found this pic on d-series.org:
do you guys think that this is what im supposed to do to my injector clips?
-Josh</TD></TR></TABLE>
you have to be logged in to view it. try copying and pasting it.
oops my bad... well i went over to my buddies house to finish up the install and it turns out that the injectors themselves have to be modified a little bit... there are little tabs on either side of them and they have to be shaved off... well i got the car running... it ran good for about 10 minutes and then it died and wont start back up... itll actually run like crap for a second and then die again... we found out that it was a big vaccume leak from the blue couplers... so i decided to go ahead and take them off... im going to put my IM back on along with that b16 TB i got from you and run it at the track like that tomorrow... in the mean time ill just take my time and get them setup nice and good before i put them back on... thanks a lot everyone!!
-Josh
-Josh
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