Open exhaust vs through the muffler on the 240 HP 1.8 ITR-more graphs.
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,854
Likes: 4
From: Southern California, U.S.A.
The dyno ***** was at it again-this time to see what kind of power was to be had by removing the B-pipe and muffler from the equation. The motor posted a previous best of 242.2 through the muffler. Today it managed to squeeze out 243.3 peak HP. Noteworthy is a new dip at 4,400 RPM with the open exhaust, and the reduction of a big dip at 6,600. From about 5,800-8,400 the open exhaust really outperformed the muffler and B-pipe. At 6,600 the open exhaust made about 10 ft-lbs. of torque and about 12 HP more.


Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,854
Likes: 4
From: Southern California, U.S.A.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegasaurus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what exhaust WAS being used?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mugen.
And it was a piece of popcorn, a corn husk -funnymen.
Mugen.
And it was a piece of popcorn, a corn husk -funnymen.
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,854
Likes: 4
From: Southern California, U.S.A.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by an2ny888 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">was the b pipe also mugen? the piping before the resonator is quite small, smaller than stock itr b pipe</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, but the B-pipe has been modified. It's 2 1/2" from the resonator to the header-no cat.
Yes, but the B-pipe has been modified. It's 2 1/2" from the resonator to the header-no cat.
(b19coupe),
also if you have upgraded the b-pipe before the resonator to 2.5, the pierced tube that crosses the resonator's inside, driving the gas to the second section of the b-pipe, is still 2.25 ID.
So you have a big bottleneck there.
A 200 whp b18c going from a modified Mugen b-pipe (2.36 OD before the resonator too) to a true 2.5 OD custom resonated b-pipe, gained 4 whp in the upper power band with the same Mugen twin loop muffler.
Since you have a 2l high output engine the gain should be much more.
also if you have upgraded the b-pipe before the resonator to 2.5, the pierced tube that crosses the resonator's inside, driving the gas to the second section of the b-pipe, is still 2.25 ID.
So you have a big bottleneck there.
A 200 whp b18c going from a modified Mugen b-pipe (2.36 OD before the resonator too) to a true 2.5 OD custom resonated b-pipe, gained 4 whp in the upper power band with the same Mugen twin loop muffler.
Since you have a 2l high output engine the gain should be much more.
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,854
Likes: 4
From: Southern California, U.S.A.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by paulITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since you have a 2l high output engine the gain should be much more.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's a 1.8. ITR crank with 81.5mm Wiseco pistons.
Setup:
Engine:
ITR block/crank.
81.5mm IB Spec Wiseco pistons (11:1)
IB ported ITR head. Stock valves.
IB ported ITR intake manifold.
70mm TB, custom intake.
Hytech header-Mugen TL cat back.
440 cc injectors, Hondata.
This intake:
It's a 1.8. ITR crank with 81.5mm Wiseco pistons.
Setup:
Engine:
ITR block/crank.
81.5mm IB Spec Wiseco pistons (11:1)
IB ported ITR head. Stock valves.
IB ported ITR intake manifold.
70mm TB, custom intake.
Hytech header-Mugen TL cat back.
440 cc injectors, Hondata.
This intake:
Realy nice graph and results, Thanks................so practically open exhaust help only on midrage and no at top-end.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kanagias »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">................so practically open exhaust help only on midrange and no at top-end. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The gains with the 2.5 b-pipe were in the same powerband's part of the open header.
The gains with the 2.5 b-pipe were in the same powerband's part of the open header.
Very impressive results as usual Todd...
I am considering a ported intake manifold from Jeff.. I also need to borrow your majic intake for my next dyno session..
Hopefully I can improve my numbers with those..
I am considering a ported intake manifold from Jeff.. I also need to borrow your majic intake for my next dyno session..
Hopefully I can improve my numbers with those..
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,854
Likes: 4
From: Southern California, U.S.A.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALLMOTOR18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am considering a ported intake manifold from Jeff.. I also need to borrow your majic intake for my next dyno session..
Hopefully I can improve my numbers with those..</TD></TR></TABLE>
You will
Hopefully I can improve my numbers with those..</TD></TR></TABLE>
You will
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALLMOTOR18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I am considering a ported intake manifold from Jeff.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I am considering a ported intake manifold from Jeff.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
phanatic
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
May 18, 2007 04:29 PM





