Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

exhaust side cam wont move /turn

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:19 PM
  #1  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default exhaust side cam wont move /turn

like the title says, my exhaust cam wont turn at all, it does, then stops like if something is blocking it from turning, motor is not in the car yet, VERY WORRIED, been spending money on this motor to get it together and now i'm afraid its been a waste
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:26 PM
  #2  
boostedcivicsir's Avatar
Mr. Badwrench
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 14,146
Likes: 2
From: stranger in a strange land
Default Re: exhaust side cam wont move /turn (SPNFEDEJ)

look to see is any of the valves are bent. take the cam out and see if it is locked up in the bores or not.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:30 PM
  #3  
Padawan's Avatar
Darth ModerVader
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,539
Likes: 1
From: Mustafar
Default Re: exhaust side cam wont move /turn (SPNFEDEJ)

If you are turning the cam without the timing belt in place, you could (and most likely are) experiencing some valve/piston contact. I would advise against turning the cams unless the timing belt is installed and properly timed.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:32 PM
  #4  
poison's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 1
From: Where snow is, I am.
Default Re: exhaust side cam wont move /turn (SPNFEDEJ)

the valve could be sitting on the piston with you trying to turn it. put it to TDC to see if it turns. It's not gonna turn freely with the engine assembled.

Does it move at all?
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:49 PM
  #5  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default Re: exhaust side cam wont move /turn (poison)

yea it moves, then it would stop like if something was blocking it, i took the cam caps off, and inspected everything, looks like the last owner put new valves in, i took the cam out and everything, looked all round in there, everything thing seems fine, nothing bent, now i put the cam back in, and put the camp caps back on, NOT tight, cause i dont have a TQ wrench, but just snugg so the cam wont pop off, and now the cam turns both ways, counter and clock wise,
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:49 PM
  #6  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default Re: exhaust side cam wont move /turn (SPNFEDEJ)

the motor was at TDC, and still wouldn't move, but now it moves all of a sudden
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:55 PM
  #7  
VTAKKK!!'s Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
From: West Chester, PA, US
Default

check the condition of the cam journals and bores to see this could be a possible culprit

also like the guys about me said i think that alot if not all honda motors are interference engines which means if the cam is not in perfect timing with the crank the valves can and will hit the tops of the pistons


put cams in timing with crank and install the timing belt and slowly try to turn the eninge over and if it still happens then i would deffinitly check for bent valves among other things
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:56 PM
  #8  
EGmikeH22's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 977
Likes: 0
From: 12.88 at 106.89 N/A
Default

torque proper on those cam caps, try it!
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:01 PM
  #9  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default Re: (VTAKKK!!)

before with the timing belt it would be hard to turn the crank, the crank bolt would just come loose again
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:05 PM
  #10  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default Re: (SPNFEDEJ)

i would try it with the timing belt back on, but the crank bolt wont come off now
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 09:27 PM
  #11  
EGmikeH22's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 977
Likes: 0
From: 12.88 at 106.89 N/A
Default

who hates crank bolts ::raises both hands::

have you checked the torque of the cam caps yet, you might have just compressed them too much and squeezed the cams in.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 09:45 PM
  #12  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default Re: (EGmikeH22)

but it would turn, but then it would stop turning
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:39 PM
  #13  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default Re: exhaust side cam wont move /turn (SPNFEDEJ)

tried it with the timing belt back on, and still does the same thing again, could it be just everything is just off sync? and the valves are hitting the pistons due to being of timing? when i would turn it, it turns a couple of times, and then i it sounds like it hits something, then stops turning
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:47 PM
  #14  
VTAKKK!!'s Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
From: West Chester, PA, US
Default

did you just slap on the timing belt or did you actually alling the timing marks on the cam gears and crank pulley?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 05:02 PM
  #15  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default Re: (VTAKKK!!)

the gears are pointing up (arrows), but the crank i believe is way off
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 09:48 PM
  #16  
A.E Motoring's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,272
Likes: 0
From: SO CAL
Default Re: (SPNFEDEJ)

worried
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 08:06 AM
  #17  
tpr's Avatar
tpr
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 720
Likes: 1
From: Garner, NC, usa
Default Re: exhaust side cam wont move /turn (SPNFEDEJ)

With the crank set to TDC two of the pistons are up and two are down. Turn the crank to 180 from TDC (both sets of pistons are at the half way point) . If the cam does not turn free then its binding and needs to be checked for proper fit.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:06 PM
  #18  
VTAKKK!!'s Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
From: West Chester, PA, US
Default

ya what he said but its 90 degrees


Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mouab18c1
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
15
May 6, 2011 11:22 PM
Unjockable
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
Jan 26, 2005 12:29 PM
eastbay92cx
Tech / Misc
5
Jun 20, 2004 07:04 AM
eastbay92cx
Acura Integra
1
Jun 18, 2004 09:24 PM
Lei Siew Long
Tech / Misc
6
Sep 28, 2001 09:38 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:04 AM.