I AM Gonna Do My Spring Tonight And I Was Wonderin If I Will Need A Spring Compresser Cuz When I Did The Coils For My Civic And Prelude I Didnt Need Them( I Am Puttin Tien Type S Springs In To My Cb7)
Plz Let Me Know Asap
Thanks
(sorry if i come over a little pushy i am diyin to drop da bitch tonight)

 

If you have the stock springs.. yes.. you need the compressor....

Good luck.... cuz that **** ain' easy to do!

 

Let us know what kind of distance you get when that sucker comes flying out.

I saw one travel 30 feet and almost take a technicians' hand off in passing.
It ranked right up there with in-shop car fires (gas tank removel), and cars falling off twin post lifts as about the scariest things going in a Service Department. The all time favorite was the technicians' wedding ring welding itself to the + batt terminal (with his finger in it).

Please take your time, tie it down to something just in case

P

 

I agree with this guy.... and btw.... "group A"... yes you do need a compressor... if not.. a spring compressor would never been invented....
My mechanic told me of a customer that didn't like the price for the spring installation and decided to do himself.... ....the "customer" ended up having to change the fender. I don't know how he did that ****... but the fender broke off the car.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P_Adams &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let us know what kind of distance you get when that sucker comes flying out.

I saw one travel 30 feet and almost take a technicians' hand off in passing.
It ranked right up there with in-shop car fires (gas tank removel), and cars falling off twin post lifts as about the scariest things going in a Service Department. The all time favorite was the technicians' wedding ring welding itself to the + batt terminal (with his finger in it).

Please take your time, tie it down to something just in case

P</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes sir, they sure and the hell do fly, luckly when i did mine, it was pointed in the garage, and i had no idea stuff like that can fly so damn fast, i still thank god to this day that, my leg was an inch over or i would have been hurt bad,

GO TO AUTOZONE and rent one, it iwll cost money but YOU WILL get it back when u return the tool, trust me, get the tool, wouldnt u rather be safe, then have only one leg to drive yoru car?

 

its not hard at all...there's several ways to do it without a spring compressor but be sure you know what you're doing...

i strongly suggest you use spring compressors...i dont ever use em...my technique is to wrap the top end with a tower and go at it...have a friend hold the strut/spring preferrablly with his/her feet...face the top end towards a wall or something...then loosen that bitch...once it pops the top bolt will be caught in the towel...and the strut/spring assembly will go the opposite direction...the fronts are what you need to worry about..a lot more pressure than the rear...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gianinline &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the "customer" ended up having to change the fender. I don't know how he did that ****... but the fender broke off the car.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
his fender probably broke because he tried to remove the spring still in place...ive done that before...and what it does is shoots the spring/strut assembly downward...im assuming thats what this guy did but something must have gone wrong...

you can rent them at autozone for 50.00 deposit..and you get that **** back when you return em...

 

Since we're on the subject. I have some tokico struts and some H&R springs. Would these make a good combination? I have the springs new but the struts are a little used.

 

I have new Tokico Illuminas and used Neuspeed springs on my Accord and the combination is great.

Your setup is similar, so it shouldnt be a problem. Just make sure those shocks arent blown!

 

heres a story, did it once with out a spring compressor and will never do that again.

 

I am damn confused on suspension definitions.

Springs - just that, springs.

Struts - The tubes that have hydraulic actuators in them that give support to the springs.

Shocks - (I thought this was another name for springs. Someone clarify please.)

 

ITS NOT THE REMOVAL OF THE STOCK SPRING I AM WORRIED ABOUT IT IS WHEN I AM PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER. CUS WHAT I USSUALY DO( I HAVE DONE COUNTLESS COILOVERS) IS I PUT THE SHOCK against a the tire and then loosen the bolt slowly so when it kick it kicks backwards againgt the tire then i just slip the coil over on and tightenit all up again
but coilovers are ajustable so i can make it fit with the top cap with ease but with the spring i am worried i will not be able to fit the cap on the shock with out first compressing hte sprin a lil bit

(sorry about the caps i realizes half way threw and i am too lazy to go back and change it)

 

Just use a spring compressor and be done with it. It's not worth the risk, especially since you can rent them FREE FROM AUTOZONE. You should be extremely cautious of taking off springs. It can be done without one, and some people don't use them, but if you have even the slightest doubt on how to do it, better off safe than sorry. It's like Chris Rock said, " You can drive a f@ckin' car with your feet if you want to, that still don't make it a good idea!"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SHIFKU(EF9 HOPE FUL) &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ITS NOT THE REMOVAL OF THE STOCK SPRING I AM WORRIED ABOUT IT IS WHEN I AM PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER. CUS WHAT I USSUALY DO( I HAVE DONE COUNTLESS COILOVERS) IS I PUT THE SHOCK against a the tire and then loosen the bolt slowly so when it kick it kicks backwards againgt the tire then i just slip the coil over on and tightenit all up again
but coilovers are ajustable so i can make it fit with the top cap with ease but with the spring i am worried i will not be able to fit the cap on the shock with out first compressing hte sprin a lil bit

(sorry about the caps i realizes half way threw and i am too lazy to go back and change it)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, for safety's sake, use a spring compressor when removing the old springs. When I was still in high school, I watched my friend shatter nearly every bone in his hand using almost the exact same method you use.

But yes, most likely you will need a spring compressor to install those particular springs. Unlike coilovers, there is always some preload with the Tein S.Techs when the shock assembly is assembled.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Obsidian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am damn confused on suspension definitions.

Springs - just that, springs.

Struts - The tubes that have hydraulic actuators in them that give support to the springs.

Shocks - (I thought this was another name for springs. Someone clarify please.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

"Struts and shocks are very similar in function, but very different in design. The job of both is to control excessive spring motion; however, struts are also a structural component of the suspension. Struts can take the place of two or three conventional suspension components and are often used as a pivot point for steering and to adjust the position of the wheels for alignment purposes."

In other words, a strut is basically a shock mounted inside a coil spring, and provides two different functions: 1) dampening, just like a shock absorber. 2) structural support for the suspension (including supporting the weight of the vehicle). &lt;--- this is the difference between the two.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SHIFKU(EF9 HOPE FUL) &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ITS NOT THE REMOVAL OF THE STOCK SPRING I AM WORRIED ABOUT IT IS WHEN I AM PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER. CUS WHAT I USSUALY DO( I HAVE DONE COUNTLESS COILOVERS) IS I PUT THE SHOCK against a the tire and then loosen the bolt slowly so when it kick it kicks backwards againgt the tire then i just slip the coil over on and tightenit all up again
but coilovers are ajustable so i can make it fit with the top cap with ease but with the spring i am worried i will not be able to fit the cap on the shock with out first compressing hte sprin a lil bit

(sorry about the caps i realizes half way threw and i am too lazy to go back and change it)</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm well when i got my lowering springs, the compression tool wouldnt fit on mine.. the gaps between each coil, was to low , so im not sure if other springs are diffrent.. my drop was 2.25 so mabey thats why

 

Actually, the stock springs will be far more dangerous than the lowered or heavy duty springs which you anticipate installing.
This is because the shortened or heavy duty springs are normally of a shorter unsprung length with a heavier gauge spring wire (Rate). Because they're shorter, you don't have to compress them as much to install them, or to support the same weight. Some applications ('70s A Body GM's) didn't even require a compressor to install a HD spring set.

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Actually a "Strut" as is used in this sense, is a Shock Absorber who's body has been modified with larger piston, heavier shaft, longer body and special mounting provisions top & bottom. It can also include provisions for steering (integrated steering arm) and may or may not have provisions for spring mounts and external adjustments for damping rate. Most now are Nitrogen filled (Gas Charged), and some have remote reservoirs.
As related elsewhere, they can replace components like the upper control arm (McPhearson type) or stand alone with a double wishbone suspension.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drktorn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres a story, did it once with out a spring compressor and will never do that again. </TD></TR></TABLE>

AWESOME STORY!!!!! Can I hear another one... huh... can I?!?!?!?!!?

 

THAT was the abridged version (Cliff Notes)

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94cordlx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just use a spring compressor and be done with it. It's not worth the risk, especially since you can rent them FREE FROM AUTOZONE. You should be extremely cautious of taking off springs. It can be done without one, and some people don't use them, but if you have even the slightest doubt on how to do it, better off safe than sorry. It's like Chris Rock said, " You can drive a f@ckin' car with your feet if you want to, that still don't make it a good idea!"</TD></TR></TABLE>
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I would not recommend that either!