Dumb question, but bare with me, wanting to turn a 16v into an 8v.
I'm looking into possibly picking up another Civic for a daily driver, the one i'm looking at is a DX, based on the VTEC-E, would it be possible for me to remove one rocker on the exhaust and intake side in order to gain better fuel economy? I figure it won't effect driveability too much as it will only see RPMs of 3-4k.
I figure it'll probably run rich if i do this, but I have a chip burner, not sure if the ECU is capable of uberdata...
I don't see why it won't work, someone perhaps have some input?
I figure it'll probably run rich if i do this, but I have a chip burner, not sure if the ECU is capable of uberdata...
I don't see why it won't work, someone perhaps have some input?
I'm trying to save money, not spend money.
What's hard about popping off a valve cover and removing rockers? Alot easier than a head or motor swap.
What's hard about popping off a valve cover and removing rockers? Alot easier than a head or motor swap.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont know how safe that would be.
Let us know how it goes if you do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't either, that's why i'm asking for input.
I don't see any reason it wouldn't work, not sure how beneficial it would be either though.
Let us know how it goes if you do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>I don't either, that's why i'm asking for input.
I don't see any reason it wouldn't work, not sure how beneficial it would be either though.
VTEC-E is the technology used in the VX 92-95 Civic (and maybe the later model HX?).
It runs the engine on 8 valves in low rpms, then in high RPMs, it kicks over to 16 valves.
It runs the engine on 8 valves in low rpms, then in high RPMs, it kicks over to 16 valves.
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ahhhhh yeah doesn't seem like it would benefit anything really just from the sound of it. but i could be wrong.
AFAIK 16v = more fuel economic than 8v, because of several factors... not sure though...
but I also think I read somewhere that the VTEC-E has an AFR of 20:1 in the lower rev range... also dependant on TPS (at least, that's what mine seems to do, press on gas, even at 1500 rpm will make the econo light go off
)
anyways, the VTEC-E was meant for fuel economy, and I don't believe stripping the system from it's upper power band will really help you when you're driving in the lower power band...
If you wanna go cheaper, why not get a smaller engine, like a d13? or, depending on the difference in price, get a DIESEL engine from a 2001+ euro accord... fuel economic, nice torque / hp figures for a DD civic and cheaper fuel... I just don't know what diesel prices are in the states...
(you would be the first to try as well I think)
but I also think I read somewhere that the VTEC-E has an AFR of 20:1 in the lower rev range... also dependant on TPS (at least, that's what mine seems to do, press on gas, even at 1500 rpm will make the econo light go off
)anyways, the VTEC-E was meant for fuel economy, and I don't believe stripping the system from it's upper power band will really help you when you're driving in the lower power band...
If you wanna go cheaper, why not get a smaller engine, like a d13? or, depending on the difference in price, get a DIESEL engine from a 2001+ euro accord... fuel economic, nice torque / hp figures for a DD civic and cheaper fuel... I just don't know what diesel prices are in the states...
(you would be the first to try as well I think)
We don't have a D13 here, or a diesel Honda engine.
It'd cost atleast $500 (that's pushing it) for any motor swap, nowhere near it to save maybe a dollar or two every time i fill up. It'd never balance to actually saving money.
It'd cost atleast $500 (that's pushing it) for any motor swap, nowhere near it to save maybe a dollar or two every time i fill up. It'd never balance to actually saving money.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bart-EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I just don't know what diesel prices are in the states... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Is it about $.30 more than 92octane premium right now. It is cheaper to run my boosted honda than it would be to run a deisel Accord motor unless that motor has damn good milage.
Is it about $.30 more than 92octane premium right now. It is cheaper to run my boosted honda than it would be to run a deisel Accord motor unless that motor has damn good milage.
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