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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Default Re: b16 or gsr...What head yeilds more compression in a b16? (Honda_b16a2)

stupid question.

GSR head.

next time you ask a simple question, search first. its already been asked. and answered 1,000,000 times.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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acually................

I did search

and I have heard 2 different answers...So I wanted to start a thread

Anyone know what a gsr head would bump up the compression to on a b16??

What is the stock compression of a b16?

I just want some real answers
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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another stupid question. i swear this is the last time im answering your thread.

stock b16a2 usdm compression 10.2:1
JDM b16a 2nd gen 10.4:1

GSR head increases compression .2 points.

so if you have a b16a2, 10.2 + .2 = 10.4:1
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Default Re: b16 or gsr...What head yeilds more compression in a b16? (SkRiBLaH)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkRiBLaH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another stupid question. i swear this is the last time im answering your thread.

stock b16a2 usdm compression 10.2:1
JDM b16a 2nd gen 10.4:1

GSR head increases compression .2 points.

so if you have a b16a2, 10.2 + .2 = 10.4:1</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks man lol
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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I have a gsr head. ill trade you for your B16 SI head
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Okay I have been doing some reading and now Im confused....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=469492

They say that the gsr head yeilds more compression, but the b16 head flows better?

So Im just gonna make this easy....

Im planning on getting a head and building it (skunk stg 2, flat valves, mugen head gasket, ported) and putting it onto my stock b16 bottom end...I already have i/h/e/test pipe...getting a p28 soon and uberdata

What head would be better for my build?


And kinda OT but would a USDM ITR IM do anygood with this setup?

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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As far as I know, the B16 is similar, if not identical, to an ITR head. I've read on Team-Integra that the ITR head has a mild port job done on it. What flows better? It's not going to matter if you're going to port the head. If you're sticking with the GS-R head, it might be cool to get a stock GS-R IM ported.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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the b16 head is far better than a GSR head.

the itr head is very similar to the b16 head but with a few modification.

the differences are: intake valves are 12% lighter due to thinner stem and increased angle from 60deg to 40deg. slight port/polish on intake, same exhaust ports. thats really it except for the cams/springs/retainers that is.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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nice job on schooling the noob
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Lemme see if I got this right....

The b16 gives less compression but flows better than a gsr head

So I should use a gsr head if I plan on porting it anyway?? since it will give me more compression.


And what will an ITR intake mani do on this setup... becuase everyone says get a sk2 IM
Because I have seen dynos of the skunk 2 IM only making power from 7-8k rpm.

What would be the best IM to use for this setup??
Thanks in advance
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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ok, well if you plan on keeping the bottom end stock, i would say use the gsr head which will give you a tad more compression and since you are going to port it to open up the flow, i would be fine with the gsr head.

The gsr head and the b16/itr head have different intake ports and therefore different manifold bolt patterns. You will be unable to use a manifold made for an itr/b16 head and will be limited to those produced for a gsr head. There are many out there which include: Skunk 2, Skunk 2 Pro series, AEBS, Blox, Edelbrock, and probably a few more. From those I would say the most common used one for sale is the Skunk which is a great manifold. For your setup, I think any will suffice (i think the edelbrock will be too big of a manifold unless you have nice portwork and good cams).
If you have any questions, let me know
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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kevin if you goin to pull the head why not do it right spend the money get some eagle rods and a higher compression piston instead .2 off the gsr head. do you head work and get some good cams and make good power that just my 2 cents. if your running the b16 head the type-r manifold will do you fine. pretty close to the skunk mani.
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