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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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any one running stock c1 block......let's see some dyno...
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Stock GS-R Block
Toda A Cams
Skunk2 Gears
AN-R IM
Hondata IM Gasket
Stock GS-R TB
Ebay 3" Intake w/K&N
Dented DC Header
2.5" Carsound
Crappy Condition Tanabe Racing Medallion
Tuned w/Uberdata by "Leed" ...I only got 5 runs unfortunately because we discovered I had a bent wheel on my 4th run.



Relatively "stock" compared to what defines an NA Honda these days.

edit - where's your dyno sheet?


Modified by alfaaay at 5:13 PM 10/8/2005
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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thats pretty good
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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thats some good whp u got in there, i wonder how the GSR will do with same setup as urs (stock comp) with spec b cams and upgraded valvetrain
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smkngsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats some good whp u got in there, i wonder how the GSR will do with same setup as urs (stock comp) with spec b cams and upgraded valvetrain</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks! I feel like the whp number is a little low, but I'm making pretty good torque and the car feels good to drive. Unfortunately, the chances of me investing more into an NA setup (IE a GOOD header, better exhaust, etc.) are slim since I want to go turbo next summer.

I think Toda B's would be over camming. Would I do it? Yeah, probably. This is just a prediction based on what I know about flow and dynamic compression, but you'll make more peak power (185 to 190-ish?), at a higher RPM, and have less torque. It'll be definitely be faster, but it won't have as nice a torque curve or powerband or as much whp as it could if it had upped compression.


Modified by alfaaay at 8:18 PM 10/8/2005
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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bc3+ cams
4-1 header
hondata
sk2 IM

181 whp and 127tq on dynojet before touching the cam gears. This was not UAE corrected however.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Easyslider01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bc3+ cams
4-1 header
hondata
sk2 IM

181 whp and 127tq on dynojet before touching the cam gears. This was not UAE corrected however.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know BC3+ makes some crazy midrange throughout the power band but im kinda leaning towards skunk2 stage 2 or toda spec b cams...ive been having hard time to decide on the cams for few months because everybody had their own opinions and its so hard to decide which is which...
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alfaaay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock GS-R Block
Toda A Cams
Skunk2 Gears
AN-R IM
Hondata IM Gasket
Stock GS-R TB
Ebay 3" Intake w/K&N
Dented DC Header
2.5" Carsound
Crappy Condition Tanabe Racing Medallion
Tuned w/Uberdata by "Leed" ...I only got 5 runs unfortunately because we discovered I had a bent wheel on my 4th run.



Relatively "stock" compared to what defines an NA Honda these days.

edit - where's your dyno sheet?


Modified by alfaaay at 5:13 PM 10/8/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>that is actually good #'s.....stock block..and head no port??.....props..man
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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bump for more.....give us wit stock c1 bottomend some hopes..
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 01:58 AM
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well heres mine
stock block c1
pnp/5 angle vj
milled.20
blox 2
ferrea valvetrain
skunk im
stupid dc headers
toda camgears
full pipping exhaust
honda s200
p28 jun program
179.2 116 lbs trq.. why is my trq so low?? maybe the dented headers?
next mod: smsp headers, type r tb, 440cc inj
my tuner told me that im maxing my injectors and suggested 440 im still debating that it'll b overkill...any help??..
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:16 AM
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Wow nice #'s guys andyways does dents on the header effect tq? reason im asking is because my friend has a T1R 4-1 header and has a nickle size dent on one of the runners.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Serdar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow nice #'s guys andyways does dents on the header effect tq? reason im asking is because my friend has a T1R 4-1 header and has a nickle size dent on one of the runners.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nickel size? It probably won't be that bad of a restriction. Here's what my DC header looks like:



eff the U.Washington University District roads and random construction sites

btw, right next to the header is the resonator from my Tanabe Racing Medallion. Eff crappy manufacturing. A crack started forming a few months prior to the dyno day, I thought it was just a rattle, then one day on the freeway, CRACK!
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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Default Re: STOCK B18c1 bottom end (alfaaay)

heres mine...just got it back from inline:

OBD1 JDM GSR Motor
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
DC Sports JDM ITR 4-1 Header
2.5" Test Pipe
RS*R EX-MAG Catback Exhuast
K&N Filter Kit W/ Stock Intake Arm



Any good pointers to help me get this daily driver a little more whp?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotorjdism &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres mine...just got it back from inline:

OBD1 JDM GSR Motor
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
DC Sports JDM ITR 4-1 Header
2.5" Test Pipe
RS*R EX-MAG Catback Exhuast
K&N Filter Kit W/ Stock Intake Arm



Any good pointers to help me get this daily driver a little more whp?</TD></TR></TABLE>it seems kinda low..what kind of fuel management??...is it tuned??..
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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BUMPP !!! GUYSSS
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PAndADc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it seems kinda low..what kind of fuel management??...is it tuned??..</TD></TR></TABLE>

It was tuned on hondata.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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Default Re: STOCK B18c1 bottom end (allmotorjdism)

my old old old set up back in my hatch was a stock
USDM GSR block
P&P PR3 head
milled 20 thou
reworked Chambers
ITR valves
JG springs /retainers
RS MACHINE cams
AEBS IM
stick TB
Stock intake box with 3" pipe arm
JDM ITR header
V-AFC 181whp 132ft lbs
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Snoflake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my old old old set up back in my hatch was a stock
USDM GSR block
P&P PR3 head
milled 20 thou
reworked Chambers
ITR valves
JG springs /retainers
RS MACHINE cams
AEBS IM
stick TB
Stock intake box with 3" pipe arm
JDM ITR header
V-AFC 181whp 132ft lbs </TD></TR></TABLE>ImPressive
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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My friends integra made 166 whp and i forget the actual tq number. Damn i cant find the dynosheet but it was on a dynojet 249c.

The mods were:

Skunk2 IM

Stock ITR ARM and Box

JDM ITR Header

2.75 Kakimoto Exhaust with a shitty catco 2.5inch clogged header.

Woulda made im sure maybe a tad bit higher with the test pipe hes running now.

Also there was no tuning done just on a base map for hondata. Im sure with skunk stg. 1s and hondata tuning 18x would be possible.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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Default Re: STOCK B18c1 bottom end (Snoflake)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Snoflake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my old old old set up back in my hatch was a stock
USDM GSR block
P&P PR3 head
milled 20 thou
reworked Chambers
ITR valves
JG springs /retainers
RS MACHINE cams
AEBS IM
stick TB
Stock intake box with 3" pipe arm
JDM ITR header
V-AFC 181whp 132ft lbs </TD></TR></TABLE>

forgot to mention that that was with Exhuast hooked up 2.5" with ES OVAL and with the CAT still in place
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