ive searched all of honda tech and on allmotor and i found one that dealt with non-vtec ls but it didnt say anything on gsr rods and pistons I talked to my buddy whom did that and had a full prelude fuel system in his 90 hatch and he had it fully tuned and it ran a 14.2

i was wondering if that is the best idea for a ideal daily driven allmotor that doesnt require 93+ octane. would i have to worry about valve clearance on this or not or should i just get a higher compression set of pistons for my stock ls rods. i was going to do a full rebuild and just use stock parts except for rods and pistion. i didnt want to have to covert it over to obd1 for tuning purpose because i just bought a brand new distributor so what would a good tuning program be for obd0

 

if you use the gsr rods on an ls crank you will have to much radial clearence, (laymens terms) the rods will move left and right on the rod jounals to much, I wouldnt do it.

 

well what about swapping the whole crank rods and pistons

or could i simply put the gsr pistons on the ls rods it is a 95 ls block

 

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in laymens terms, you dont know what your talking about

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2quikmotorwerks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you use the gsr rods on an ls crank you will have to much radial clearence, (laymens terms) the rods will move left and right on the rod jounals to much, I wouldnt do it.
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what do you mean by left and right? enlighten me.

 

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Like he said it means nothing.

 

Well nobody really answered your question. Basically the rods need to go with the crank because the difference in rod length and stroke. I would keep the ls crank and rods due to the larger stroke and displacement. I think that gsr pistons will fit right on ls rods but i am not sure. Im sure that a search would answer that question.

 

use your ls rods and a set of pr3 or p30 pistons, you will be fine on pump gass

 

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in laymens terms, you dont know what your talking about</TD></TR></TABLE>i dont know what im talkin bout huh if you know so much you would know that a ls rod is thicker then a gsr rod therefore if you where to put a gsr rod on a ls crank you would have excess clearence on the sides of the big end of the gsr rod, have you ever tryed to put an ls rod on a gsr crank if you have you would know that it dosent fit unless you clearence the big end of the rod, sure the pistons will fit either of the rods and if you know anything bout building motors not just reading magazines or or trying to think you know **** on h-t you would know that excessive radial clearence isnt good when your building motors .( SO I SUGGEST YOU KNOW YOUR **** BEFORE YOU TRY TO BATTLE ME ON BUILDING MOTORS) read somemore superstreet or something(OR ACTUALLY BUILD A FEW MOTORS THAT HAVENT BLOWN UP AND THEN COME TALK TO ME BIG DOG)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2quikmotorwerks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't know what im talkin bout huhI really wouldnt be worrying about radial clearance in an ls block with ls crank and using gsr rods, I'd be a little more woried about the pistons sticking out of the block an extra 2mm if you know so much you would know that a ls rod is thicker then a gsr rod therefore if you where to put a gsr rod on a ls crank you would have excess clearence on the sides of the big end of the gsr rod, Yes, I know that the big end of the rod is thicker on the ls, thanks for the update though have you ever tryed to put an ls rod on a gsr crank if you have you would know that it dosent fit unless you clearence the big end of the rod, sure the pistons will fit either of the rodsactually, no they wont, the small end of the ls rod needs to be machined to accept a gsr piston and if you know anything bout building motors not just reading magazines or or trying to think you know **** on h-t you would know that excessive radial clearence isnt good when your building motors .( SO I SUGGEST YOU KNOW YOUR **** BEFORE YOU TRY TO BATTLE ME ON BUILDING MOTORS)no battle here buddy, your the one thats getting but hurt over the internet read somemore superstreet or something I enjoy reading, thats how you learn(OR ACTUALLY BUILD A FEW MOTORS THAT HAVENT BLOWN UP AND THEN COME TALK TO ME BIG DOG) I've built plenty of motors that havent blown up, and remember, its bigmatt, not big dog,


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alright thanks guys it wont be until this winter and i havnt pulled the motor apart and am still deciding on honing it out or boring it would ctr pistons clear the valves with stock cams and some tuning?

 

since we are being picky it wouldnt be 2mm. piston top to deck height is .030" and the difference in the rods is .036" (5.430-5.394). .036"-.030"=.006" out of the hole. .006 is ~ 1.5mm and if you removed some of the quench area in the head it would work. imho the journal width difference on the big end between the 2 rods isa bigger hurdle to overcome

its really too bad all b series didnt have interchangable big ends of the rods.... the only one you can swap out would be a b16 rod and who wants a shorter rod

 

well i just talkd to my buddy he said he had the rods machined to fit the crank etc i was thinking of just going with putting the gsr pistons on the ls rods if nothing is wrong with them and all that i am going to have it hottankd and all that good stuff but i may just go ls vtec pending on money i just need to get with my friend and see if he can get a head cheap.... i know that if i get ctr pistons they will have to be machined to fit my rods but if i stay just a ls non vtec im worried about valve clearance

 

bump needing some help here soon getting ready to tear block down hopfully later tonight

 

would like any help with a cheap ls upgrade not looking to do nething really maybe some nitrous after the rebuild

 

bump would like to get some ideas here before i get to close on time im getting another 95 ls block here this week end that needs the crank turnd also so what is best for 95 ls i would lik the best compression and be able to later add a shot of nitrous for my seldom trips to the track