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HELP!!! 1990 B18A INTO A 1992 CIVIC VX???

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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Default HELP!!! 1990 B18A INTO A 1992 CIVIC VX???

I got a 1990 ls teg that I would like to swap into my 1992 civic vx. I know the civic is obd1 and the teg is obd0... what would I have to do to make it work. is there adaptors for the harness. I have the motor already in just how do I make it work. Please help if you can thanks in advace
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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from what i've read you are supposed to use most of your civic's sensors and the fuel injectors if you dont have the obd1 ones.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Default Re: HELP!!! 1990 B18A INTO A 1992 CIVIC VX??? (b18acivicjojo)

MOUNTS:
-rear: EG mount + 94-01 teg bracket
-driver's side: 94-01 teg mount + bracket
-AC: EG mount + 94-01 bracket
-front: not sure (not used)
-tranny top: Hasport hydro-cable conversion (assuming you're keeping the stock Y1 tranny)

LINKAGE: 94-01 teg

ECU: OBD1 P74 (92-93 LS) or P75 (94-95 LS, higher redline)

INJECTORS: OBD1 civic, teg, delsol (all are 240 or 250cc, can't remember)

DIZZY: 94-95 LS

SENSORS & HARNESS: EG (might have to extend a few wires)

Assuming you're using the stock exhaust manifold, you'll need to have it shortened to line up properly with your exhaust. Any muffler shop can do this. Also anywhere 94-01 teg is mentioned, 94-97 delsol vtec can be substituted.


Modified by transpar_nt at 11:27 AM 9/24/2005
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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what is a DIZZY?

so I wont have to change the harness?

what about all the vacum lines?


thank you sooo much you've made my day I was ready to give up on her....lol
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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not sure if your in cali but ive heard that the motor (any motor) you plan on swaping has to be younger than the chasis your putting it in. then ofcourse be able to pass BAR... not 100% sure tho
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by M2nR22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not sure if your in cali but ive heard that the motor (any motor) you plan on swaping has to be younger than the chasis your putting it in. then ofcourse be able to pass BAR... not 100% sure tho</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is true, however, if you play it cool, and dont rip up the streets everytime you get in the car, youll be cool. i have a 95 gsr in my 92 civic si with no cat and a straight trough pipe...loud as hell, but i dont get bothered cuz i dont abuse my cars power. i know my post has nothing to do with your initial question, just wanted to let you know, although its smart, that you dont HAVE to get your car bar certified. if you even live in ca. haha
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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thanks transpar_nt, that clears up some stuff i was wondering about

and dizzy is short for distributor
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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Default Re: HELP!!! 1990 B18A INTO A 1992 CIVIC VX??? (agp1183)

dizzy = distributor

I don't remember on the vacuum lines. Either set should be fine. Some of the distances might be a little different, but there is usually a bit of slack in the lines anyway.

I'm from Canada, so I don't have to deal with all of that shitty bar stuff , as there are no illegal swaps. All the cops care about here are: 1) How fast you drive 2) What color your lights are 3) How loud your exhaust is (and it has to be pretty damn loud for them to do anything.)
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 04:59 AM
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Here is a breif rundown of the swap

Well here is a corrective update for the swap of putting a b18a into a 92-95 civic(we did it on an LX)

1) The mounts you DO NEED are 1994+ Driver side engine bracket and mount

2) The rear bracket needs to be from a 94+ integra. The mount for the rear can be used from the civic/integra also.

3) The top tranny mount we used is the 90-93 integra mount and also the 94+ teg mount works. Whoever said you can use a civic mount has never done this swap. The motor still sits on a small angle because you need an aftermarket TOP Tranny mount so I'd recomend buying the one from http://www.jdmshit.com and it will be a shorter mount raising your motor to the proper level as it should sit.

4) If you want to run the stock LS cable tranny, you will need to switch the VSS sensor from the hydraulic transmission to the cable tranny. Basically it's 1- 10mm or 12mm bolt holding it in. Once you undo the bolt you can take the VSS mechanism out and put it into the cable transmission.

5) The stock 90-93 Integra shift linkage works properly but sits about 1 inch farther away then the stock civic so you can deal with it or get the shift linkage extended.

6) DON'T USE THE STOCK INTEGRA CLUTCH CABLE!!! just pickup the conversion peice from http://www.jdmshit.com

7) You can use the 90-93 Integra gas pedal linkage

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We tried to do this swap using as much stock civic mounts as we could(owner of the car neglected to get the proper mounts on time) so we had to try to see what we could do.

using the driver side 92 integra mount and the integra top tranny mount the motor sat in there but on an angle and a bit off so the mounts required NEED to be purchased in order for the motor to sit properly

I will update this thread in the next few days after all the final bugs are worked out with the swap and will update everybody of any changes.


bart



<U>You CANNOT use the Stock civic TOP TRANNY MOUNT!!!!</U>
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.RHTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whoever said you can use a civic mount has never done this swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.RHTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><U>You CANNOT use the Stock civic TOP TRANNY MOUNT!!!!</U></TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't see anyone saying that you can use the civic top tranny mount.... By "passenger's side" I meant "tranny top". I guess it was labeled improperly, but I changed it now. Good point on the vss, I forgot about that.

Hey Mr.RHTuner, you mentioned that you could use the DA linkage for the swap. So the only difference would be that the shifter would sit about an inch closer to the firewall? Good to know
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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ok so the problem now is no spark I got every thing in but the clutch cable I am waiting for a conversion kit. I am using a ecu from a 1992 rs teg and the 1992 dizzy could that be the problem?

so close

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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18acivicjojo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so the problem now is no spark I got every thing in but the clutch cable I am waiting for a conversion kit. I am using a ecu from a 1992 rs teg and the 1992 dizzy could that be the problem?

so close </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ecu and dizzy are fine, assuming they're in working condition.
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Since you have a vx you're going to have to rewire the o2 sensor as well.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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so I need a 94 rear engine mount bracket

and n e Idea about no spark every thing came from a car that was running
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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on the back of the motor (the 1990 teg) there is a sensor that has no sensor plug for one of the 2 to was pluged into sumthing that went to the vacum lines

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