i was just wondering, does anybody with a decent amount of money put into their civic lock their cars? there are so many stolen car threads. I always lock my car, and I've only put about 1500 into it. just wondering how all these nice hatches are gettin stolen.

honda stealing bastards

 

I personally have not had it happen and i always lock mine too, but it doesnt matter with a civic. they are so easy to break into. With a slim jim (i think thats what it is called) it takes no time. the only thing i think will save it is a starter kill on an alarm. but even then people know civic very well and they are not too complicated of cars.

 

I always lock mine.

 

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so do i, even if its just to go run inside the house for 10 seconds and the gfs in the car

its just a habit to press the button when i get out of the car

 

you can lock your car till your blue in the face if someone wants it, they will get it. 2 words- tow truck, flat bed

 

The only safe sex is no sex. The only safe car is no car.

Other than that, it's all about balancing paranoia with practicality. I don't know how long any of us can go without either of the above, but at some point we have to make sacrifices.

Check out this site: http://members.***.net/shaundr....html There are a lot of good ideas for making your car more difficult to deal with (from a thief's perspective). The Fuel Pump Kill Switch is something I've neglected... until recently. Also, if the electrical engineer in you is adventurous enough, look into setting up circuits that require multiple switches in order to operate your vehicle (while still retaining practicality).

The point is DETERRENCE. Make those ******** realize that some other poor sap's poorly secured vehicle is easier to **** with, and make it as easy as possible for them to make that determination . Anyone who wants your car badly enough will likely be able to get it. How much effort it takes for them to do so will depend largely on you (and what you do). Perhaps only the POTUS (and ex's) has enough security to prevent this from happening.

Keep a low profile, and I'm not talking springs. We have to ask ourselves why we do what we do (with our cars). If one's goal is exposure and recognition, then one must prepare themself for any and all consequences. You will undoubtedly have less to fear in terms of theft if you don't go bumpin around in some carshow type vehicle blasting some window rattling LFO with some crazy vinyl graphic (not saying that's what you have, but you get my point). Increasing your vehicle's public exposure increases the likelihood that you'll expose it to someone who wants your ****... badly.

But, like I said, it all comes down to how you balance paranoia with practicality. While a happy medium always exists, there's little anyone can do about the fact that some people are just Evil ******** (other than not being one).

**** THIEVES!
JasonGhostz

Regarding confronting thieves, either in the act or after the fact, BE SMART. Understand fully the consequences of retaliation, in spite of how justified you may feel in doing so. If you cannot convince 12 dumbfucks who are likely uninterested in anything not involving their own dumb asses that you are right in doing what you do (have done/will do), then DON'T do it. As far as self defense goes, protection of property IS NOT legal justification for the use of force. It must be proven that you had reason to believe your health/life, or that of another has been threatened.

If you are brave and inclined enough to do so, you might be able to do this by stepping into the path of the thief (either between the thief and your car (item to be stolen), or between the thief and his "escape path"). By doing so, you can TRUTHFULLY say that the thief made a move toward you, that the move was threatening (despite your warnings to stay away), and that you needed to use force to neutralize the threat you perceived.

But the biggest key to your "self defense" argument will be this (if you do it)... As loudly as you can, YELL FOR "HELP!!!!". Follow it up with a nice "This guy's gonna kill me!!!" The more people who hear you, the better. The more people who see you, the better. Anyone witnessing this event will automatically associate YOU as the one who is being/has been/will be victimized (whether or not that is actually the case is a bit more touchy depending on the situation).

I would love to hear stories of how thieves got their asses kicked, etc.. but not at the expense of people who are (normally) law-abiding citizens... rather, citizens who don't steal .

Stay smart.

 

Well Put Jason.

 

locking your car just doesnt cut it...
gotta weld the doors shut and run lexan windows for people not to get into your **** faster than you can unlock your car and sit down... all thats required to break into a civic is fast hands... and if youre going to steal it, you gotta have fast hands and a friend... and some other ****...

basically what it comes down to is, sleeping in your car and putting kill switches on everything possible.

 

All honda's have the hood release cable in the same location. one cut and a quick yank of the battery underhood takes less than 10 secs and your alarm will never go off.

The best you can do is layer your security so it takes so much time and effort that it becomes useless.

I was going to use lojack, a fuel cutoff, and somehow relocate or cover my hood cable. Then avoid parking it in a place where it could be towed. Because nowadays they'll just tow your car away to pick apart and no amount of security stops it from being picked up and pulled.

 

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run longer cable and put it where your gas cable is?
maybe run it through so its on RHD side?

 

of course you lock your car...but locks dont stop towtrucks

 

Re: ^^^^^^^

Very good points. The "Cause for Alarm" site addresses them to a limited extent. Tilt Sensors, Hood Cable Relocation and other Hood locking methods are discussed. The guy's quite knowledgeable, and has a bitingly sardonic perspective that keeps a smile on my face. I love the *******-installed Antenna Kill Switch!!!

Alarms are good... for the limited amount of time that they might make noise. *** The key to all alarms is having neighbors/bystanders who give a **** *** Or, in the least, give enough of a **** to do something about it. What good is an alarm if people just walk on by, or just close their windows at night to "Muffle that MF'n annoying-*** noise!!". Apathy and complacency are key accomplices to thieves. Let's try to think about this next time we hear our neighbor's alarm go off.

Operational prevention is much more important. The great thing is that you can do this (to a limited extent) without having to install a new alarm. For DIY'ers, keep your steps steady and sure. F'ing with the electricals can be frustrating, and can have expensive and unintended results.

With all that said, my car's still stock (+ factory alarm)!! I ain't doin **** until I finish with the security stuff.

This thread probably doesn't belong in this forum anymore... Oh well.
JasonGhostz