i currently have a pretty stock lude with just intake and exhaust. but im planning on my next step to be doin my whole suspension. i was thinking of getting all of the parts together at the same time for a possible auto cross set up. i was want to get alot of feedback from u guys to see what u guys think about it . :1. TEIN SS Coilovers 2. TEIN EDFC3. Neuspeed front strut tower bar 3. Skunk2 Racing rear lower arm bar 4. Neuspeed Front & Rear Sway Bar 5. Tanabe Sustec Under Brace bars Front & Rear. Also i am really kinda worried on the balance of making the car overly stiff to now be able to be a manuverable or can tht really happen? thanx

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKSHLUDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i currently have a pretty stock lude with just intake and exhaust. but im planning on my next step to be doin my whole suspension. i was thinking of getting all of the parts together at the same time for a possible auto cross set up. i was want to get alot of feedback from u guys to see what u guys think about it . :1. TEIN SS Coilovers 2. TEIN EDFC3. Neuspeed front strut tower bar 3. Skunk2 Racing rear lower arm bar 4. Neuspeed Front & Rear Sway Bar 5. Tanabe Sustec Under Brace bars Front & Rear. Also i am really kinda worried on the balance of making the car overly stiff to now be able to be a manuverable or can tht really happen? thanx </TD></TR></TABLE>

1. waste of money
2. even bigger waste of money
3.a waste of money
3.b waste of money
4. solid choice
5. waste of money.

what parts to get depends on what you want the suspension to do.

but if it's performance you're after here are the mods, in order of importance:
-tires
-shocks
-ride height (either coil over sleeves or springs)
-rear sway bar
-camber adjustibility (negative = good)

all of these braces and bars arent actually suspension pieces. they don't move, nor do they affect the way the car is suspended. if anything they're a part of the chassis. also, they're not very effective in double wishbone hondas. if you HAVE to get one, the one people seem to like most is the front strut tower bar, even though i personally think that it's a waste of money.

 

Good information. How come we don't have a Suspension faq?

 

what coilver set up would be good if i want to be able to drive it on the street and possibly take it on the track?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKSHLUDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what coilver set up would be good if i want to be able to drive it on the street and possibly take it on the track?</TD></TR></TABLE>

do you need height adjustability?

if yes:
Ground Control and Koni Yellows/tokico Illuminas/KYB AGX.

If no:
good lowering springs + koni/tokico/kyb.

if you can get a price on the SS (under 800) then the tein's might be an ok choice. skip the "pillowball mounts" and skip the EDFC.

 

koni yellows w/ GC coilovers

 

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1. waste of money
2. even bigger waste of money
3.a waste of money
3.b waste of money
4. solid choice
5. waste of money.
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agreed. i just removed my front sway bar and i love the way my car handles. sport springs with tokico shocks. nice and soft for daily use, but no understeer on the track.

 

how does the SS compare to the other coilovers tht are out their? i hear tht they are really good for the both street and track.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKSHLUDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how does the SS compare to the other coilovers tht are out their? i hear tht they are really good for the both street and track. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would recommend for a full coilover system maybe tein flex or even an option such as d2's or omnipowers. They are a little less expensive (the d2's and omnipowers that is) and probably better suited for you.

 

I sure hope the Tanabe Sustec Underbraces arent a waste. I havent installed them yet but, i just bought a set.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but if it's performance you're after here are the mods, in order of importance:
-tires
-shocks
-ride height (either coil over sleeves or springs)
-rear sway bar
-camber adjustibility (negative = good)

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Not trying to be a smart-*** or anything, but what about a roll cage and weight reduction for handling?

Also, I would recommend D2 coil-overs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not trying to be a smart-*** or anything, but what about a roll cage and weight reduction for handling?

Also, I would recommend D2 coil-overs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

weight reduction is a good suggestion. roll cages also help with handling but that's a big sacrifice to make as far as the car itself goes (interior gone) since it'll be hard to sell a caged car in any market, plus, depending on the cage, could be unsafe to drive around on the street w/o a helmet.

but yeah both of those things would make a difference in a car's handling.

 

Thanks, I figured as much. I guess those are less-reversable handling mods, haha.

 

how big of a difference is the ss compared to the flex's ? bc i am putting these on my daily driven prelude. so i dont want a coilver system way super stiff but not also too soft. just something tht can be pretty versitle for street and possible track use.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKSHLUDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how big of a difference is the ss compared to the flex's ? bc i am putting these on my daily driven prelude. so i dont want a coilver system way super stiff but not also too soft. just something tht can be pretty versitle for street and possible track use. </TD></TR></TABLE>

None of the tein setups for preludes are really great for tracking the car, but they'll suffice for most drivers.

the SS is supposed to be the most street friendly, as many people here rave about how comfortable they are, which i believe. I just don't believe them when they say "the car handles like it's on rails!" b/c i'm not sure they know what that feeling actually is

The SS has spring rates like 8 kg/mm Front/4 kg-mm Rear, the FLEX has, IIRC, 10kg/6 kg rates. both make for understeering pig ludes, but for most drivers that's not a bad thing. Whether the FLEX's are comfy enough to drive on the street, i don't know, but 10 kg/6 kg is fairly stiff spring rates. I'm running more spring in my daily driven car, but i live in an area w/ nice roads, and have great shocks so i don't mind so much.

 

What is your set-up?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">None of the tein setups for preludes are really great for tracking the car, but they'll suffice for most drivers.

the SS is supposed to be the most street friendly, as many people here rave about how comfortable they are, which i believe. I just don't believe them when they say "the car handles like it's on rails!" b/c i'm not sure they know what that feeling actually is

The SS has spring rates like 8 kg/mm Front/4 kg-mm Rear, the FLEX has, IIRC, 10kg/6 kg rates. both make for understeering pig ludes, but for most drivers that's not a bad thing. Whether the FLEX's are comfy enough to drive on the street, i don't know, but 10 kg/6 kg is fairly stiff spring rates. I'm running more spring in my daily driven car, but i live in an area w/ nice roads, and have great shocks so i don't mind so much.</TD></TR></TABLE>that's a good point, but most japanese coilovers will have a front biased coilover setup as japanese tuners like to tune in oversteer using swaybar size.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB6racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">agreed. i just removed my front sway bar and i love the way my car handles. sport springs with tokico shocks. nice and soft for daily use, but no understeer on the track. </TD></TR></TABLE>ionno about removing the front swaybar


bad-monkey, you also forgot replacing all the bushings with all new polyurethane bushings...doing that makes the car completely different! very responsive and sharp steering feedback

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> What is your set-up? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm on koni/gc with 450/550 rates. progress 27mm rear sway, OE front sway, 235/40/17 RA-1's on 17x8's for track days. i'm looking to add a way to adjust front camber without having to use the SPC or Ingalls kits.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bad-monkey, you also forgot replacing all the bushings with all new polyurethane bushings...doing that makes the car completely different! very responsive and sharp steering feedback </TD></TR></TABLE>

PE bushings definitely make the car feel alot sharper. However, they're a bit of a pain in the ***, since the polyeurethane tends to rot and disintegrate after a little while and the bushings need to be replaced on a regular basis. I'm not sure i'm up for that, but others may be. My solution is to go with new OE rubber bushings after the old ones have degraded. If your car's been around the block, and feels sloppier than it did when you first got it, replacing bushings is a great way to get the crispness back.

 

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Also, I would recommend D2 coil-overs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Where did you purchase your D2's from?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dougs96SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Where did you purchase your D2's from? </TD></TR></TABLE>

User "JDogg" on here. Very good service.

 

would the Koni and ground control coilover fit on an sh?

 

this is off topic but would koni yellows from a 4th gen prelude work in a 5th gen?

btw i was using koni's with eibach springs and thought it was a great combo, but this was with a 4th gen prelude.