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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:24 AM
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Default Installing splits, Lost power to headunit. Confused?! Please help!

hey guys.
i need a bit of help!
in my g/f Daihatsu, i fitted my old splits. The splits consist of 2 tweeters, 2 speakers and 2 mini amp looking things (says they are a "crossover network" on the box).

in the amp thing there are 6 slots, 2 for input and 4 for output. They are.. Tweeter (neg and pos(output)), Woofer/speaker (neg and pos(output)) and Input (neg and pos(input)). As these speakers were previously used on my car, all the wires are connected already. So the neg and pos slots on both the tweeter and woofer were wired upto the tweeter and speaker, making life easier.

my g/f has a Kenwood head unit which autobarn installed for her a few months back.

where the OEM speakers were in her car, i soldered the end of the pos and neg wires of the input slots to the wires that originally lead to the OEM speaker.

I placed the amp thing in the inside of the door using double sided tape and mounted the speakers on the inside of her side mirrors on the plastic moulding part.

Everything worked fine.. but what me being the idiot i am, didnt think about the window (btw, they are power windows), when they came down, they pulled the tweeter wires out of the amp thing. I pulled the door down again in the passenger side, rewired the tweeters and made sure everything was fine, i made sure the wires were dodging the windows path and everything was ok. i turned the stereo on to make sure it worked and it was working ok. While the music was on, i tryed winding the passenger power window down and it just cut out. i immediately looked to see if i could see smoke from the amp thing or anything else in the door, i couldnt, i couldnt smell anything burnt. The speaker seemed to be working fine before it cut out.

What has happened though, i dont think is something with the speaker itself. I am getting no power at all to the headunit. When i turn the ignition to Acc. there is nothing, no display, nothing. I wired up the driver side door as i did the passenger to fix the window prob.

My question is. What have i done?
I thought, maybe i knocked a wire, but the stereo was working fine until i wound down the window, is it possible the window knocked a wire?
Has something shorted out?
What could i try and do to fix this?

Any info/help would be very very appreciated as my g/f has cracked the ***** big time and wont stop whinging at me about it now lol. i also dont really wanna pay to take it to a specialist

Please please help
If you have any idea of what i may have done, feel free to post
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 03:13 AM
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Default Re: Installing splits, Lost power to headunit. Confused?! Please help! (Paul1985)

anyone got any ideas?
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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Default Re: Installing splits, Lost power to headunit. Confused?! Please help! (Paul1985)

When you rolled down the window with the HU on and the speakers, [component speakers w/ off board passive x-over] cut out, there was a short, if you are real lucky, all you did was blow a fuse, check the fuses, there will be one for the acc. for the HU, [probably marked "radio"] and then there is a fuse for the constant power, [that would be the 7.5A in the engine bay fuse box of a honda/Acura] I have no idea where it is in your g/f car, the HU itself has a fuse on it , it can be an in-line one on the wiring harness, or plugged right into the back of the HU.

If it was a fuse, before you turn on the HU again, make sure there are no speaker leads shorting out, you may get lucky once, [and not have blown the output in the HU] but don't push your luck.

Also, you said you put the x-overs inside the doors, not a good idea, another problem besides the one you have already run into, [wiring inside the door that the window mechanism can catch] is moisture, the x-over box is not waterproof, and it can get very wet inside the door. 94
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Default Re: Installing splits, Lost power to headunit. Confused?! Please help! (fcm)

thanks for that fcm, appreciated.. ill check it when she gets home from work.

The thing that is confusing me is, the window came down, didnt seem to hit any of the speaker wires but it cut out. i didnt check it properly as i didnt have time and it was getting dark, but i made sure they were out of the windows path so i dont think it would have.

ill recheck that passenger side door where it seemed to occur and ill check the fuses as u stated above. Hopefully i will find the problem
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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ok.. heres the story so far. i re-checked the wiring between the x-over and the tweeter, woofer and input, and its all fine. checked all the fuses i could.. checked the main fuse box (dash) and the fuse box under the bonnet. All seem to be ok, but.. i couldnt work out which were to the radio, so i checked them all, heres what they are...

Dash:
1. Fog lamp 15A
2. Tail lamp 10A
3. Defogger 15A
4. Power window 30A
5. Gauge and Back up 10A
6. Engine 10A
7 Spare 10A (Had a fuse, seemed to be fine)
8. Spare 15A (Had a fuse, seemed to be fine)
9. Wiper and Turn signal lights 20A
10. Heater 20A
11. Accessary 15A (Thought it could be this one, seems to be fine)
12. Head light (left) 10A
13. Head light (right) 10A
14. ECU ignition 10A
15. Air bag 10A
16. Door lock 15A

Hood:
1. Fuel pump relay
2. Day light 10A
3. EFI 15A
4. Back up 10A
5. Stop light 15A
6. MGC 10A (For Air con)
7. Horn Hazard 15A
8. RAD Relay
9. EFI main relay
10. Starter relay (For auto trans)
11. MGC relay (For air con)
12. AM 60A
13. ABS 50A
14. Tail light 40A
15. Head light 30A
16. RAD 30A

I checked the fuse in the back of the headunit, seems to be fine.

Now i dont know what to do. Im thinking that one of the fuses is blown, and i must have missed it or a fuse looks ok but really isnt, anyone have any ideas on what i can check? anything at all? If someone is able to tell me which fuses from the list above are for my radio, that would be great because i'll try and replace those fuses. Thanks in advance if anyone can help me.

Paul.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Installing splits, Lost power to headunit. Confused?! Please help! (Paul1985)

problem solved.

it had me lost, i didnt know what was wrong, i pulled the face off the headunit and the security light was on and i thought.. wtf, some power must be going to it then?!?!

i pulled the fuse out and made sure all the wires were in properly etc (on the back of the HU) and then switched the ignition to acc. It started up. WOOHOO! all speakers working perfectly.

U know what i reckon it was. i remember fiddling with the HU and its options, and i think i put a code or something on it somehow? and when i reset the power, it reset the code. Because when it came on it said, "code off". This doesnt explain why it cut out in the middle of listening to music though, just out of nowhere? Either that, or i somehow pulled a wire out, most likely when the window came down and then when fiddling, connected it back up.

Doesnt matter, the problem is fixed, well for now at least
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