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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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Would i still be getting my moneys worth and a great setup if i just run off the shelf koni yellows and normal stock spring rates that gc produces? Im a pretty amateur driver when it comes to racing or anything but i want to get the best out of the product i am buying and i am considering my options since i have already bought "off the shelf" koni sport yellows.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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You would be fine.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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yes you will be getting your money's worth...just dont race a lot...and if you feel the need to change to a higher spring rate there are plenty of people here on h-t that will sell you there's...i'm on koni yellows and GC with 450lbs/in front and 400lbs/in rear...i'm going to be chaning the rear springs for 550lbs/in...
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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koni's might be overkill for OTS rates. kyb agx's will be fine with OTS rates.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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well im running ots konis so i was wondering if i should just stick with ots gc's also? or should i just take advantage of the custom spring rates?
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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tEhNgUyeN, you might as well. My car is a daily driver and I went with 450 front, 350 rear.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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would i want a higher spring rate for the fronts or the rears?
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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The OTS rates are fine for 90% of the public. People are so concerned with spring rates these days even though they have no idea how to apply them. I think they just like to say "custom rates"
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People are so concerned with spring rates these days even though they have no idea how to apply them. I think they just like to say "custom rates" </TD></TR></TABLE>
Amen. I have never been asked so many "what is the best spring rate?" questions when in reality most people who knew enough about spring rates to make an evaluation would know that this isn't really a viable questiona as there are far too many variables.

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The OTS rates are fine for 90% of the public. People are so concerned with spring rates these days even though they have no idea how to apply them. I think they just like to say "custom rates" </TD></TR></TABLE>


i will give you a HOLLA LOUYA to that.

Unlike alot of companies thought and testing was put into the rates that they have set for cars. IMO its a great balance betwee, comfort and performance.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tEhNgUyeN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well im running ots konis so i was wondering if i should just stick with ots gc's also? or should i just take advantage of the custom spring rates?</TD></TR></TABLE>

im just saying that if you arn't going to go with higher spring rates later on, there are cheaper alternatives to koni's. such as kyb agx's.

higher rates help lower bodyroll, but with higher rates, you also do lose traction..
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The OTS rates are fine for 90% of the public. People are so concerned with spring rates these days even though they have no idea how to apply them. I think they just like to say "custom rates" </TD></TR></TABLE>

yah i actually do like to say custom spring rates.. everyone talks about OMG SPRING RATES MATTER SOOO MUCH blah blah blah but no one ever says why or whatever i just wanna get the best product for my money.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Default Re: Koni / Gc *Off the shelves?* (tEhNgUyeN)

Not to hijack, but Asselin, how is the ride compared to stock?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tEhNgUyeN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yah i actually do like to say custom spring rates.. everyone talks about OMG SPRING RATES MATTER SOOO MUCH blah blah blah but no one ever says why or whatever i just wanna get the best product for my money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

get spring rates of 1800 in the front and the max that eibach does for the rear. let me know how long till ur teeth fall out

i had traction problem in the front with 350/450 rates on a 4th gen prelude. i'd barely tap the gas and i would lose traction and wheelspin. in turns when i floored it, i would wheel spin through the whole turn. maybe it was cause i was boosted
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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well whats higher for the normal ots front or rear?
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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The higher spring rate goes up front.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 03:27 AM
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Default Re: Koni / Gc *Off the shelves?* (chowmien)

i think im gonna go with just normal rates.
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