I was looking into buying a K20 for my 2001 civic, but then a guy in my club offered to sell me a K24 for 900 and it has 15k miles on it. it doesnt come the the tranny, ecu, or axls. they have the same hp right (k24 and K20A2)?

Is the K20 better then the K24?
How much would it cost to get the other items i need, like the Tranny, ecu....
What else do i need?

 

what k24 is it there is like 4 different kinds

 

**** really, I dont know. What are the different ones? do they have different HP's?

 

yup umm theres the ones from the accord, crv, and element. which i think they hp was lower around 160ish or sumthing, also lower compression. no real vtec just the ivtec-e, i believe.
then theres the k24a2 which is a tsx motor same as the k20a2, but more tq, has about 10.5 compression i believe and all the k20a2 and k20a valvetrain and what not can be used. the better of the k24.
if it is a a1,a3,a4 of the k24 that would work good if u were to swap the head out for a k20a2. go to k20.org and theres alot of info about all this on that site.

 

K20a-JDM ITR and CTR both come in with 11.5:1 compression and 2 liters of displacement. The Type R motor is rated at 220hp at 8,000rpm and 152lb-ft at 7,000 rpm. Both of these motors have the same VTEC mechanism as the older B series motors but with the addition of VTC. It also has larger cams, higher compression and larger intake manifold than the Type S motor. This motor comes with a 6 speed transmission and LSD. The 6-speed manual transmission uses multiple synchronizing cones for all gears, including a triple-cone synchronizer in 1st and 2nd gears and a double-cone synchronizer in 3rd through 6th gears.

K20a2-Acura Rsx Type S has 11.0:1 compression and 2 liters of displacement. The Type S is rated at 200hp at 7,400 and 142 lb-ft at 6,000 rpm. This motor also comes with a 6 speed transmission with no LSD. It has the same VTEC mechanism as the older B series motors but with the addition of VTC.

K20a3-Acura Rsx Base and Civic SI models come in with 9.8:1 compression and 2 liters of displacement. The Base motor is rated at 160hp at 6500rpm and 141lb-ft at 4000 rpm. This motor does not use the conventional VTEC mechanism from the earlier B series motors but does have VTC. Instead it only has 2 cam lobes on the intake side and 1 on the exhaust lob. This motor has no VTEC mechanism on the exhaust cam and runs on 12 valves before 2200rpm with the other 4 slightly opening. It also has smaller ports than the Type S and Type R. The motor comes with a 5 speed transmission instead of the 6 speed and has no LSD.

K24a1-Honda CRV comes in with 9.6:1 compression and 2.4 liters of displacement. The motor is rated at 160hp at 6000rpm and 162 at 3600 rpm. This motor does not use the conventional VTEC mechanism from the earlier B series motors but does have VTC. Instead it only has 2 cam lobes on the intake side and 1 on the exhaust lob. This motor has no VTEC mechanism on the exhaust cam and runs on 12 valves before 2200rpm with the other 4 slightly opening. It also has smaller ports than the Type S and Type R. The motor also comes with a 5 speed transmission instead of the 6 speed and has no LSD.

K24a2- The Acura TSX comes in with 10.5:1 compression and 2.4 liters of displacement. The motor is rated at 200hp at 6800rpm and 166lbs-ft at 4500rpm. This motor uses the conventional VTEC mechanism as the older B series motors but with the addition of VTC. This motor uses a drive by wire throttle and has EGR castings on the manifold. This motor comes with a 6 speed transmission and no LSD.

K24a4- the Honda Element and Accord come in with 9.7:1 compression and 2.4 liters of displacement. The motor is rated at 160hp at 5500rpm and 161lbs-ft at 4500rpm. This motor does not use the conventional VTEC mechanism from the earlier B series motors but does have VTC. Instead it only has 2 cam lobes on the intake side and 1 on the exhaust lob. This motor has no Vtec mechanism on the exhaust cam and runs on 12 valves before 2200rpm with the other 4 slightly opening. It also has smaller ports than the Type S and Type R. The motor also comes with a 5 speed transmission instead of the 6 speed and has no LSD.

more info here: http://hybrid-racing.com/articles.html

 

Thanks for the info.

 

i personally would get the k24a2, they are cheaper and very similar to the k20, besides it is a 2.4 liter, can we say k27 ..?

 

you have to redo the crank and get custom rods and oversize pistons in order to get the 2.7 litre of motor. also the k24a2 is not cheaper, u can pick up a full swap k20a2 cheaper then what it runs for a k24a2 to be a complete swap. i paid 2000 just for a longblock and that was cheap now u still need alot of other things.

 

The K24 is from a TSX

 

the k24"a2" is from the tsx. as in the post above it tells what other models have it just i-vtec-e, with only exhaust vtec. also the k24a3 is from the accord

 

The the one the guy is selling is the k24a2 from the TSX. How much is it going to cost to get the rest of the parts that i need?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaNINE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The the one the guy is selling is the k24a2 from the TSX. How much is it going to cost to get the rest of the parts that i need?</TD></TR></TABLE>well it really depends on how you want to go with your project, and how much of a budget do you have to work with. But your going to need around 4K more in parts, but thats a rough estimate if your a good shopper you can save some money.

 

ya ill give u a little run down of my parts list. 2000 for longblock tsx with low miles, 1000 for kpro with itr ecu, 150 for stock type s flywheel, pressure plate and clutch. 65 for starter. 550 for hasport mounts.

now i still need tranny 600ish, accord TB 150, fuel rail 150, axles 300ish, type s harness 245, alternator 100ish, FPR 150, flywheel bolts and pressure plate 60, tranny bolts 100, crv pass side mount 30, water houseing 50, belt and idler pulley 100, rad 200, hoses 100, shift box and cables 200. misc 300. helms if ur doing your work me im getting all three integra, rsx and tsx around 200. also im going just use the k24 header for now and run a custom bottom half and exhaust.

now these pricing are some being low and some being really high like the harness thats brand new from the factory but its just a little guess on what u could end up spending, might wanna add a little becuz things happens. or u get things for free like my friend has 15ft of -6an hoses so that saves me about 100 there.

 

k24 for more POWER and torqe!

 

maybe i should just stick with a turbo and wait for the new SI to come out.

What K motor is going to be in those?

 

if i remember i think it was the k20z3, similar to the a2 but with an lsd tranny. umm search for nikos i believe he had a few secerts out on it .

 

If that engine is seriously from a TSX, I'll trade you my K20A for it.

 

Well he says that it is and 900 is a great price but its just the motor and i dont think that i can afford the rest of the items need for the install

 

If you wanna make power with the k24 your gonna need a complete k20a2 to remove the oil pan. Oil pump assembly. I read the complete instructions to make a k24 a k24 vtec and you need a bunch of parts from the k20's bottom end.I'll post it if I find it again.

 

that is false, you dont need these things at all, it helps, it is slightly better but the k20a2 has a bad con, its solid aluminum and cracks when it takes a hit. the tsx is stamped sheet metal, well most likely dent first.

 

The K24

 

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he's going to sell you the complete TSX motor for $900?

If you aren't going to buy it PM me and give me his info. I will buy another one for that price...