I've watched my friend bleed brakes like 3 or 4 times before, but when i tried it myself I obviously wasn't doing it right. What am I doing wrong????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by acuragtr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've watched my friend bleed brakes like 3 or 4 times before, but when i tried it myself I obviously wasn't doing it right. What am I doing wrong???? </TD></TR></TABLE>

how are you going about it?

 

I think all should be done w/ the car turned off. Brake fluid cap off comes off. Pump brake peddle 3 or 4 times until it becomes hard to pump. While the peddle is being held down (by a friend). Unscrew the bleed valve until its a straight streem of brake fluid, and no air. Close off valve, and return to pumping the brake peddle. Pump, pump, hold, prime. In that same fasion for all brakes. Remebering to top off brake fluid each time if needed. I've been doing it in the order of. Front drivers, front passangers, rear drivers, and then rear passangers side. Any clue what I'm doing wrong?

 

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i thought it was passanger rear, driver rear, passanger side and then driver side?

 

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i thought it was passanger rear, driver rear, passanger side and then driver side?</TD></TR></TABLE>

generally when you bleed the brakes you want to work from the furthest away from the master cylinder to the closest. but this is different for every car. I'll try to find out the order for a 94+ teg, but here's one for the ITR

go by this order if you're not sure though. (i feel like the ITR's would be the same as all other integra's, but i could be wrong) The link below has the process for the ITR.

Passenger Side Rear
Drivers Side Rear
Passenger Side Front
Drivers Side Front

you seem like you're doing it right though. Here's a link:

http://mmsports.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728

Note. It is better to do it while you have your car up on jack stands (all four), but not necessary. This is a general procedure. good luck, shouldn't take too long.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by acuragtr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think all should be done w/ the car turned off. Brake fluid cap off comes off. Pump brake peddle 3 or 4 times until it becomes hard to pump. While the peddle is being held down (by a friend). Unscrew the bleed valve until its a straight streem of brake fluid, and no air. Close off valve, and return to pumping the brake peddle. Pump, pump, hold, prime. In that same fasion for all brakes. Remebering to top off brake fluid each time if needed. I've been doing it in the order of. Front drivers, front passangers, rear drivers, and then rear passangers side. Any clue what I'm doing wrong? </TD></TR></TABLE>

are you seeing the fluid going into the bottle? Is the color of your new fluid different than your old fluid?

also....DO NOT GET BRAKE FLUID ON YOUR PAINT.....it will eat the paint, so please be careful with that.

 

The earlier G3's w/ the older ABS system are supposed to be bled in a criss-cross pattern, beginning with the front left wheel.

*edited to the correct order*
Rear right
Front left
Rear left
Front right

I'm pretty sure that's the order according to my 94 Helms manual, but I will verify that when I get home.


Modified by PatrickGSR94 at 12:57 PM 7/23/2005

 

Just got done my brake job about a month ago. It was a B*tch. First off never bleed the brake unless you have to. The order on Integra are Passenger Rear, Driver Rear, Passenger Front, Driver Front. I don't think you're suppost to take the fluid cap off. Me and my buddy bleed my Brake like 15 time on each one, it was a **** load of air in the line. ask you friend to pump 6-7 time and loose the screw half a turn, close it and do it again until no more air (listen for air comming out of the bleeder valve.) oh, yeah I change the all the rotors, brake pistons, and pads.

 

I thought the cap was supposed to be on when bleeding?

 

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are you seeing the fluid going into the bottle? Is the color of your new fluid different than your old fluid?

also....DO NOT GET BRAKE FLUID ON YOUR PAINT.....it will eat the paint, so please be careful with that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
naw the fluid is def. the same color. both dot 3... lol lucky for me I was in an accedent a few months back n have yet to repaint the new kit!

 

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i thought it was passanger rear, driver rear, passanger side and then driver side?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmmm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The earlier G3's w/ the older ABS system are supposed to be bled in a criss-cross pattern, beginning with the front left wheel.

Front left
Rear right
Rear left
Front right

I'm pretty sure that's the order according to my 94 Helms manual, but I will verify that when I get home.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmmm that sounds lil more acurate to me, but if ya could check dude that would be great.

 

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generally when you bleed the brakes you want to work from the furthest away from the master cylinder to the closest. but this is different for every car. I'll try to find out the order for a 94+ teg, but here's one for the ITR

go by this order if you're not sure though. (i feel like the ITR's would be the same as all other integra's, but i could be wrong) The link below has the process for the ITR.

Passenger Side Rear
Drivers Side Rear
Passenger Side Front
Drivers Side Front

you seem like you're doing it right though. Here's a link:

http://mmsports.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728

Note. It is better to do it while you have your car up on jack stands (all four), but not necessary. This is a general procedure. good luck, shouldn't take too long.

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Good lord man that link apeared more or less like a bounch of dudes as confused as me. LOL thanks though it was sorta helpfull

 

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Good lord man that link apeared more or less like a bounch of dudes as confused as me. LOL thanks though it was sorta helpfull</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, yeah it's our small car group forum, we joke around alot since it's mostly just ours, but the guy doing the explaining knows what he's talking about, he's the Mod for the RoadRacing forum here on H-T

btw, you are definitely supposed to leave the cap off when bleeding, refilling the resevoir as you go to make sure no air gets in the lines

 

Aww cool. Sounds like a pretty cool forum.
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btw, you are definitely supposed to leave the cap off when bleeding, refilling the resevoir as you go to make sure no air gets in the lines </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I know I saw that. But also still stuck on the order that I do it. Thanks though!

 

umm...I bled my brakes without the car on....following instructions from a manual ( bleeding in the order that was previously mentioned...the criss cross pattern, but I started on the passenger rear. ) and found that...its much better to turn the key so that the accessories are on ( 2 clicks..but not having the motor run ). Why? Well....after being done...I turned the ignition to start the motor. While before I did that the brake pedal was beautifully stiff.....but..after startin her up, the brake pedal acted like I never bled it Not sure about this, but this is just a guess: Since the brake lines run through the ABS motor....I figure it had something to do with it. So I jacked up the car...again....turn the key twice so as to not start the car, and repeated. Brakes work fine now

 

All you guys listing an order to bleed the brakes gotta understand that the ABS system changed in G3 Integras, and the order may have changed, also. The earlier G3's ABS had its own separate reservoir near the modulator, and was a 3-channel system. The later G3's, 98 I believe, up to 2001, just used the regular brake reservoir for the ABS, and it may have changed to a 4-channel system (not sure on that).

For a 94 Integra with the older ABS system, and probably all 94-97 Integras, is as follows (from the Helms factory repair manual):

1. Rear Right
2. Front Left
3. Rear Left
4. Front Right

I do not know what the order is on later G3's, it may or may not be the same, but if you have an earlier G3, you need to follow that order if you want to do it correctly. Properly functioning brakes are HUGELY important to having a safe vehicle (your safety and everyone else's) so I emplore everyone to PLEASE do the job correctly.

 

94 -
1. rear passenger
2. front driver
3. rear driver
4. front passenger

1998 is actually
1. Front driver
2. front passenger
3. rear pass
4. rear driver

these are both from helm manuals. i found that odd.
edit: fixed. thanks patrick


Modified by LSvtec03 at 6:46 PM 7/25/2005

 

dose it matter that mine is n rs?

 

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no.

 

thnx all guess I'll try n give it a shot

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSvtec03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1998 is actually
1. Front driver
2. front passenger
3. rear pass
4. front driver

these are both from helm manuals. i found that odd. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You listed Front driver twice

I assume that would be the order for the newer ABS systems on 98-01 models?