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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Sup fellas.

I'm working on a 91 accord lx model.

The old motor went kaput so I dropped another f22a1
block in to replace the old one.

Everything is back in and hooked up as far as I know.

When I go to start the car all that happens is a clicking noise from
the map sensor and a clicking noise from the PAIR.
(the little black pulse air intake box by the battery)
There is a vacuum line that goes from this to the map sensor.

I've checked all of my electrical connections as well as the vacuum lines
and everything looks intact.

Do you guys have any idea on what could be causing it not to crank?

Thx 4 the help, Chris
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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transmission ground hooked up?
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by momstaxi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">transmission ground hooked up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, all grounds are intact.

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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it does not crank or it does not start ???
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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if it does not crank i would chk battery connections, make sure starter solenoid wire is connected .........if it ctranks but no start chk if it is fuel or spark related
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deserthonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it does not crank i would chk battery connections, make sure starter solenoid wire is connected .........if it ctranks but no start chk if it is fuel or spark related </TD></TR></TABLE>

It doesn't crank or start.

We tried giving power directly to the starter and it still wouldn't crank.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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smoked starter? have you pulled the starter out of the motor and tried it? (ground it via a jumper cable)
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notoriousB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">smoked starter? have you pulled the starter out of the motor and tried it? (ground it via a jumper cable)</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I haven't tried that yet, that's a good idea though

It kind of just has me stumped why the map sensor and the PAIR box
are clicking though. Do they always do that when you go to start your motor

Keep em coming fellas
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yes, all grounds are intact.

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Even the one by the thermostat? Behind the engine; against the firewall?
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Bionic- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Even the one by the thermostat? Behind the engine; against the firewall?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Firewall, yes

thermostat, yes

transmission, yes.

drivers side motor mount to valve cover, yes

behind the engine?, can you specify where that one is?
I don't recall a ground coming off of the wiring harness behind the engine.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It doesn't crank or start.

We tried giving power directly to the starter and it still wouldn't crank.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you mean you had a wire from battery posit cable to starter solenoid and still no crank???? well if that is the case you got a bad starter,
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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I thought the ground for the thermostat is on the driver side by the firewall.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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what year accords have a thermostat ground? my 6th gen doesn't.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Bionic- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought the ground for the thermostat is on the driver side by the firewall.</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notoriousB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what year accords have a thermostat ground? my 6th gen doesn't.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is a 91 lx model f22a1 motor.

So I guess that's a 4th gen right?

I'm gonna check the starter today.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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update: I pulled the starter today and tested it, it's working fine.

I cleaned the terminals up and I have a good connection to the starter.

any other suggestions?
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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starter fuse blown?

if you bench tested the starter & it's good there is probably a problem somewhere in the circuit. get the multimeter out.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notoriousB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">starter fuse blown?

if you bench tested the starter & it's good there is probably a problem somewhere in the circuit. get the multimeter out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I checked the starter signal fuse under the dash and it was good.

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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do you have power at starter main wire???? also have a friend crank car while you put a test lite to the wire at starter solenoid see if you are getting power while cranking .. also chk the main negative cable from battery make sure it has a clean , good connection at the other end at car's body ...
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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could have a bad ignition switch
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