All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

b16a2 intake manifold (2 questions)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:28 AM
  #1  
RACEPAK's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 2
Default b16a2 intake manifold (2 questions)

hello fellas i have a few IM questions.... the engine is a b16a2

take a look....


-is that line suppost to go to the external map senor ?


what suppose to be bolted down here under the TB?



best regardfs moshik galimidi
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 09:56 AM
  #2  
D-Rob's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,680
Likes: 2
From: Carlisle, PA, USA
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (RACEPAK)

I don't think that TB is from an Si...

My factory throttlebody had a MAP sensor on top of it. The only ones that I know of that use the external one are the 1st gen JDM B16's.
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 10:22 AM
  #3  
2000r#0283's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
From: tallahassee, florida, usa
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (RACEPAK)

do you have usdm b16 or jdm I have the 2 gen b16 and my map sensor is still the same way. To get by just plug the line on to the m/s it works but i am getting a new tb.
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 10:32 AM
  #4  
THEUSED's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,277
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, WA
Default

FITV
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 10:44 AM
  #5  
RACEPAK's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 2
Default Re: (THEUSED)

the engine is from a civic vti so i think its edm.

Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 11:26 AM
  #6  
not so civic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,712
Likes: 1
From: gravity rides everything...everything will fall, se GA/ne FL
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (RACEPAK)

the top line is just a vac port. you can plug it to your map if you want. for the bottom of the throttle body, just make a plate for it and seal it or bolt a fast idle valve under there and make sure to run the coolant line to the intake manifold or side of the head.
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 12:16 PM
  #7  
743power's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,962
Likes: 0
From: at the track
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (not so civic)

that is an obd1 throttle body. The top line goes to the evap canister and the bottom port is for the FITV, as was already mentioned above.
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 12:26 PM
  #8  
RACEPAK's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 2
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (743power)

thanx.... so where is the map nipple? i can seem to find the sensor on the IM.
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:04 PM
  #9  
743power's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,962
Likes: 0
From: at the track
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (RACEPAK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanx.... so where is the map nipple? i can seem to find the sensor on the IM.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you know what, I think that is an OBD0 throttle body now that I look at it. Do you know anything about the car that motor came from? Looks like it has an obd2 wiring harness. . .

What car are you putting it in?
most obd1 and all obd2 (i believe) map sensors recieve vaccuum directly from the IM, whereas the older style are remote mounted and recieve vaccuum like shown here:



maybe if you measure the opening of the throttle body we can figure out what car it came from.
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:19 PM
  #10  
RACEPAK's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 2
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (743power)

i know that the engine came off a civic vti.

but i dont know the year.... is it 1994?




this engine is gonna replace my D14A4 that i dont know if its obd1 or obd2..the ecu is a "P3Y" so im gonna replace the whole harness.. to which obd that engine is.

the car is a 1997 EJ9.


p.s.
are obd0 and obd1 sensor connectors looks the same?
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:23 PM
  #11  
743power's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,962
Likes: 0
From: at the track
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (RACEPAK)

yea, that head is a 94.

obd0 connectors are a milky, opaque white color. obd1/2 are a grey or black color.

Reply
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 06:42 AM
  #12  
ne3ek's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,505
Likes: 0
From: CT
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (743power)

that looks like an sir2 to me

does the Im say p30? I know my p30 has an ext map as well. obd0's said pgmfi on them, the obd1s had the line on the top of the IM and the obd2's were blank.. correct me if im wrong.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 09:34 AM
  #13  
743power's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,962
Likes: 0
From: at the track
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (ne3ek)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ne3ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that looks like an sir2 to me

does the Im say p30? I know my p30 has an ext map as well. obd0's said pgmfi on them, the obd1s had the line on the top of the IM and the obd2's were blank.. correct me if im wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

my obd1 sir2 motor had a throttle body map sensor.

Reply
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 02:37 PM
  #14  
ne3ek's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,505
Likes: 0
From: CT
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (743power)

well mine is a 92 maybe early obd1's had ext map sensors?
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 09:46 PM
  #15  
RACEPAK's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 2
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (ne3ek)

-so which nipple on this IM is for map sensor?

-are you guys sure that its a fitv under the TB?
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 09:55 PM
  #16  
RACEPAK's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 2
Default Re: b16a2 intake manifold (RACEPAK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

-are you guys sure that its a fitv under the TB?</TD></TR></TABLE>

can i use a D-serise FITV?
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 10:57 PM
  #17  
Deetz's Avatar
Crazy Honda Guy
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,025
Likes: 19
From: Calgary, AB, Canada
Default

Not sure aboue edm stuff, but it looks like you have a first gen TB on a 2nd gen engine and manifold. You should measure it, 1st gen TB's are 58mm, instead of 60mm.
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 01:51 PM
  #18  
743power's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,962
Likes: 0
From: at the track
Default Re: (Deetz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Deetz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not sure aboue edm stuff, but it looks like you have a first gen TB on a 2nd gen engine and manifold. You should measure it, 1st gen TB's are 58mm, instead of 60mm.</TD></TR></TABLE>



I'm positive that is an obd0 TB
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 02:04 PM
  #19  
RACEPAK's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 2
Default Re: (743power)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 743power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">



I'm positive that is an obd0 TB</TD></TR></TABLE>

why??

the TB is 62mm. (masured from the inside)

and i noticed that it has a port for the map sensor.... :sillyme:

Reply
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:34 AM
  #20  
Deetz's Avatar
Crazy Honda Guy
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,025
Likes: 19
From: Calgary, AB, Canada
Default

^^^ no its not! Only the ITR comes with the 62mm TB, and its a OBDII style with map sensor mounted on top.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:30 AM
  #21  
RACEPAK's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 2
Default Re: (Deetz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Deetz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^ no its not! Only the ITR comes with the 62mm TB, and its a OBDII style with map sensor mounted on top.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Reply
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:18 PM
  #22  
6ghatch's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,840
Likes: 0
From: SE, PA
Default Re: (RACEPAK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

why??

the TB is 62mm. (masured from the inside)

and i noticed that it has a port for the map sensor.... :sillyme:

</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to measure from the backside (butterfly side).
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
LUKE 92 GS-R
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
3
Jun 18, 2008 06:17 PM
fast93accord
Forced Induction
2
May 23, 2005 09:31 AM
jdmsiR20
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
Nov 12, 2003 06:18 PM
zippeay
Tech / Misc
2
Aug 8, 2003 02:25 PM
The Mole
Forced Induction
4
Nov 23, 2002 10:22 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:03 AM.