ok this is on the rear its the big bushing 94 civic coupe. both are torn one side is bad i noticed it when i put my springs in there is alot of play when its up on stands i can move it around easily. also should i go with oem replacement or es or what? aslo is it pressed in? how hard of a job to replace? thanks

 

That's your trailing arm bushing. And yes, ES makes replacement inserts for them.



You'd probably have to press them out if you don't want to fight with getting it out and then resorting to torching it until it burns out

 

thanks i looked on hondaautomotiveparts.com and there is no replacement bushing for it im gonna look into those es ones.

 

Its a bit of a bitch burning out the old bushings. Do not press them out if you are going to use ES bushing. They need the outer metal sleeve to work properly. You have to burn them out with a propane torch. Be paitent and well ventilated. Then grease the crap out of the new ones before installing them. Where disposable gloves when working with the ES grease. Youve been warned

 

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Oh the fond memories

 

I know honda makes a replacement bushing, and it is like $54. I got 2 for my civic a while back.

 

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yea i noticed in the pic of them there was no metal sleeve. are you or anyone running es trailing arm bushings? i was doing some searching and came across this but i was thinking this is more for auto x and my car is dd so i might just go with the es.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=493789

 

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for what year car? cause they dont got it for 94

 

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some were in the RR/autoX forum they give the part number, it might be from a 94-01 integra

 

Mugen also offer these bushings, they are like the OEM ones, just a bit stiffer.

Edit : here are a couple of interesting threads : https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1064620

http://www.performanceforum.co....html

 

http://www.performanceforum.co....html

This is the best place to learn about trailing arm bushings. Good call Pondus...

Some people feel that the the ES bushings don't allow the proper suspenison movement that is required in this position. The OEM rubber bushing allows movement just like a spherical bearing that is mounted on a sliding center shaft. As the suspension goes through the motions it's required to rotate around the trailing arm's centerline, rotate around the bushing center axis, and move back & forth on the bushings shaft. The TA centerline rotation is something that the Poly bushing resists. It only rotates around the bushing axis, and slides on the bushing center shaft. This can cause binding and funny handling characteristics over bumps & hard turns...

 

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The stock ones have been redesigned, and are nearly identical to the Mugen ones, at half the price. They are also available seperately from Honda now, because the original design was weak and prone to failure.

Do not use ES for that bushing. Like stated in the RR/AutoX thread, they will bind and cause bump steer. That could be a bad, bad thing while taking an onramp a little too aggressively.

 

I run the ES on my car for Auto X and love it. I dont have to use a large rear sway bar to make my car rotate. For daily driving it is a bit harsh, but wouldnt say dangerous. If you keep them lubed they arnt to bad. All this being said, if I could do it again, which I might next year, I would go with Mugen busings all around. Just to make the car more compliant. For roadracing I think they may have a point, but daily driving and Auto X I think it gives you a better feel for the car, and eliminates the need for a big rear sway bar, so you dont tear the rear subframe.

 

ES bushings are great, and the car handles better; but just don't use it for that trailing arm bushing.

 

If your a true baller, you could get these:

They are from Hard-Race.com and they cost a fortune. The design theory is perfect. I would totaly be interested if I had money coming out of my ***...

 

i run the ones from jhp.com

they don't have a dust boot but my car isn't daily driven

 

yea im not a baller so honda should have the replacement busshings? what model do i ask for? and the oem replacements will have to be pressed in right? like i said this is a dd car no auto cross racing just racing in a straight line. thanks

 

Yes you will have to have the old bushings pressed out, and the new ones pressed in. As for which TA bushings to order, that TA bushing link tells you how to measure your existing bushings to make sure get the correct size. Their are two separate size bushings, and it's possible you could have either one. It's comon understanding that the larger bushing is from the 90-93 integras, but it is possible you could have those trailing arms on your civic (from a previous owner)...

When you order them, you will need to bring the part number along with you because there isn't any way for the Honda parts people to look it up. They must have get the part number from you.

 

i love mines
road feedback is nuts, the car is solid, hard aceleration would used to gaive alot of *** squat after putting these in it took alot of it out.

i was able to hammer the stock ones out very easly actually. so putting the replacements in should not be too hard.

 

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Those are ultra-pimp. Anyone have a link? I googled around a bit, but came up with nothing...

 

http://www.hardrace.com/

 

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Thanks. I tried hard-race.com, and nothing. Then googled hardrace, hard race and hard-race; and the site never came up.

So anyone have prices, or know of a dealer for these things? I'm sure those endlinks are pricey, but may be worth it instead of replacing mine every few months. I'm sure the TA bushing is way out of my league.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes you will have to have the old bushings pressed out, and the new ones pressed in. As for which TA bushings to order, that TA bushing link tells you how to measure your existing bushings to make sure get the correct size. Their are two separate size bushings, and it's possible you could have either one. It's comon understanding that the larger bushing is from the 90-93 integras, but it is possible you could have those trailing arms on your civic (from a previous owner)...

When you order them, you will need to bring the part number along with you because there isn't any way for the Honda parts people to look it up. They must have get the part number from you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea that was a good *** link lots of good info so im guessing this is going to be a bitch to do right. im guessing i have the smaller ones cause i bought my car completley stock but ill measure. thanks for the help.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hayabusa160 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i love mines

i was able to hammer the stock ones out very easly actually. so putting the replacements in should not be too hard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea those are nice but a little over kill for me. did you hammer the new ones in or press? what did you use to hammer them out besides a big hammer? like a big socket or special tool?

 

I'm glad that you guys find my page on bushings worth while! (it's the "performanceforum.com" page)

You should know that some Honda dealers don't seem to be able to confirm that the numbers are available.

Trust me. The numbers are valid and if the dealer gives you any problem, just go to another dealer.

What I need to do is find out if any of the internet Honda part dealers will order up the parts. (as in Manchester Honda) That would be the best price source.

Wes Vann

 

majestic and san leandro both allow part number search and order now.

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...h.jsp
http://www.slhondaparts.com/search.asp