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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Default Hondata ECU - what's in there?

Hey guys - I'm contemplating getting the Hondata setup for my car. Alan at A&J says I should stay with the ECU I'm using now (Mugen N1 with custom map) because the ECU processor speed for the Hondata is inferior. I don't know what to think anymore since most information these days is heresay. What I want to know is if anyone has any information regarding the guts of the Hondata ECU/chip? I know it's either an EPROM or reburnable EEPROM - but what is the processor speed and how does it compare to the stock ECU?
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Hondata ECU - what's in there? (Big Phatty)

lol.. thats a bunch of crap.. the reason for going with a hondata is that you are still using your stock ecu for the maps.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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does the ECU processor speed really affect performance that much???
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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I was under the impression that it is a socketed Honda ecu.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 02:38 PM
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its like running your engine on super nintendo instead of the original nintendo
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Hondata ECU - what's in there? (TurboR616)

the reason for going with a hondata is that you are still using your stock ecu for the maps.
You mind explaining your statement a little more comprehensively? Hondata eliminates the stock ECU (i.e. not a piggyback) thus how can it use the stock ECU for maps?
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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Hondata is your stock ecu, socketed. And then some software.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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So if you allready have a rom programmer(don't ask), would you just get stage 3?
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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So if you allready have a rom programmer(don't ask), would you just get stage 3?
Nope you still need the software. The programmer doesn't come with the stage 4, you have to buy it seperate.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Hondata ECU - what's in there? (Tbone)

People with the stage 4 software and a rom programer can program any lower level of hondata(1-3).

Thats also how dealers can tune your ecu.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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thats funny, but yes, a OBDII ecus use much quicker processors, but Hondata offers alot more tunability...even though the EPROM speed is slower it makes no difference...we're taling about nanoseconds not secs...
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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Thanks.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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hondata modifies a stock ecu...
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:25 PM
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its a piggyback system... might as well get the new aem management system
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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AEM doesn't offer the option of lower stages. Stage 4 doesn't do me any good without a dyno, so why pay for it?
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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Default Re: Hondata ECU - what's in there? (Big Phat R)

if you want ECU that has a good speed, go for MOTEC, or AUTRONIC, PowerFC is allrite, but its a bit slow compare to others.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Hondata ECU - what's in there? (DarksideDC4)

Hondata is not a piggyback, it uses it's own maps, unlike a piggyback which operates in + or - units from the stock map.

The aem is also a bit more expensive and still doesn't offer full throttle launch and full throttle shift.

If I had lots of cash or a need for management above and beyond my ecu I'd go with hondata.

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Hondata ECU - what's in there? (SuperTwinz)

its a piggyback system...
Is it??

[edit: thanks eh-D]


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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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Default Re: Hondata ECU - what's in there? (Sam & Bridget)

no hondata is not a piggyback. Hondata is more of a modification to you factory ECU, while the piggyback works in conjuction with your factory ecu.

Also hondata is cheaper than the AEM/motec/powerFC/haltech.

I dont know what kind of mods you have but figure out how much tuning you need/want. Datalogging would be nice though.

One more thing, unless you have a dealer w/dyno or you get the stage 4, you will not have the ability to burn new programs on your own. Something to keep in mind.

i heard http://www.hondata.com has some good info on this topic

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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Motec M8 Pro
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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Motec M8 Pro
naw just run carbs
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 03:55 AM
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Motec M8 Pro
or AUTRONIC SM2
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