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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Default Q: MUGEN TWIN LOOP & ITR LCA+ ITR SWAY BAR on EG?????

anyone know if there fitment problems there???
with a twin loop made for eg6 will it clear the itr rear lower control arms and itr rear sway bar?

thoughts, pics, advice all welcome..
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also another quick question...are jdm eg6's equiped with itr lca's or us style lca's?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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does anyone have an answer or opinion...
almost an real info would help.....
thanks
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Viorent Grip! EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone have an answer or opinion...
almost an real info would help.....
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

up cause i dont know
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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you have to move it rearward about 1-2 inches. Which makes the tail pipe stick out a little more than normal but not obnoxious.
Also if you go too far back with the muffler the top of the loop hits the rear bumper brace. REALLY annoying.

The EG6 (real one) has LCAs that are identical to the ITR. But the shock mounting position is a little different.

If I had a digital camera I'd take a pic for you.


**edit** To clarify, the EG6 rear LCA looks identical to the ITR, but the actual location of the shock mounting hole is slightly different than the ITR.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you have to move it rearward about 1-2 inches. Which makes the tail pipe stick out a little more than normal but not obnoxious.
Also if you go too far back with the muffler the top of the loop hits the rear bumper brace. REALLY annoying.

The EG6 (real one) has LCAs that are identical to the ITR. But the shock mounting position is a little different.

If I had a digital camera I'd take a pic for you.


**edit** To clarify, the EG6 rear LCA looks identical to the ITR, but the actual location of the shock mounting hole is slightly different than the ITR.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that info is really helpful.....please post pics if u can...would help out alot..thanks
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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i had ITR LCA's, modified Dc2 twinloop, no sway bar, on my EG did not have any problems.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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then will mugen twin loop made for eg6 fit?
damn sway bar...arghh!
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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i've got the skunk2 21mm sway bar with a Worldsport exhaust (2.5" piping) and ITR lca's and my bar barely clears the piping before the exhaust canister (rattles once in while though when the idle's rough)...

sorry, only pic i have rite now but i'll try to get one showing how close it is to the exhaust.

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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does anyone know length difference between apex ws and mugen muffler?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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yesterday i put a knockoff Twin Loop on my hatch,which has a GSR rear sway bar on it.the ITR bar is very similar in shape and placement to the GSR bar,so this is a close comparison.
obviously if you get a real Mugen rear section,you have no choice where the piping goes,and i can't say if it will hit.
if you're getting one of the knockoff Twin Loops,you can make the piping clear everything,although it is tight.
my suggestion is a knockoff muffler and custom piping so you can ensure everything fits.
if you want i can take pics of my setup.
Chris
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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thanks for the info chris...pics would be really great...
thanks alot for everyones time...
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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it should clear just fine.. i have a mugen 1st gen muffler on a itr b-pipe with itr lca's and 23mm itr sway bar.

as long as the twin loop is for the eg6 you should be fine. because they make it clear both the jdm eg6 and also the usdm model civics&gt;&gt;remember jdm eg6's have itr rear lca's so you should be just fine.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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HT user MugenEG (Chad) is using a Mugen twinloop on his hatch, and couldn't fit the ITR rear sway because of it.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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was he using the correct rear rubber hindges to hold up the muffler? the shorter one?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">was he using the correct rear rubber hindges to hold up the muffler? the shorter one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dunno, he's ghetto as hell!
Actually, I don't know. He's pretty meticulous when it comes to that project, so I'd assume he did, but I'd have to ask him. We were just talking about this last weekend too.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Q: MUGEN TWIN LOOP & ITR LCA+ ITR SWAY BAR on EG????? (Viorent Grip! EG)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Viorent Grip! EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the info chris...pics would be really great...
thanks alot for everyones time...</TD></TR></TABLE>
here are a few pics i took when i welded up everything.i know it's not exactly the info you're looking for,but the pics of the whole system would be good for comparison with the bends of the Mugen system.i'll take pics of the muffler and piping in realtion to the swaybar when i get the car back in the shop.if you'll notice the "hump" in the piping right before the muffler,that was necesary to clear the swaybar.








i know the tip looks cheesy.i wanted something as stealth as possible,so i just chopped off what stuck out for now.later when i have more time i'll cut off the duasl wall tip and just weld on a 2.5" tip.
Chris
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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okay,undercar pics now:



HTH
Chris
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