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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Default stock ep at 140 hp is that bad or good

well it was 139.98hp @6.9rpm and 125tq its all stock is that good or bad what mods shoul i do to it

i want to turbo charge the car but still saving up for it should i go ahead and buy a cai and headers and exhaust what do u guys think

by the way im going to buy rotas c8 for it its black 16inch
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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k20a swap..........
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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thats only going to put me at 180 hp and 129tq thats what my bros rsx did with injen cold air
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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are you talking about the 2.0 ivtec? if you are, then that is good; ive seen civic sis dyno at 130-135.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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yes and its all stock
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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If you are going turbo you dont want to buy an intake or header because you will just buy another set for the turbo setup. If you want to start adding bolt ons now and re-use them later you may want to consider a supercharger, you can continue to use the header and exhuast you have and most intakes will bolt up to something like a Jackson sc.

If you can only afford to add things piece by piece, like me, you could add intake, then header/exhaust, then Hondata and when you are really ready Jackson race super charger. This entire setup will get you around 225 whp, with pretty good reliability.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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how much would a supercharger cost me dosent it cost more than a turbo i really want to do something to it its to slow i think i love the car but not the power lol
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by moshi moshi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well it was 139.98hp @6.9rpm and 125tq its all stock is that good or bad...? </TD></TR></TABLE>

That is right on the money for a 160 HP SAE Net motor, assuming you were on a Dynojet.

The best bang for the buck would probably be a modern, small turbo with moderate boost. Just add about 30 HP and be reliable.

Everybody loves to do swaps, but one thing always leads to another, and you can end up spending thousands more than you would have for the turbo. The low compression K20A3 motor just seems to beg for a blower.

A blower's not my way of doing things, but I have to admit that in the case of the K20A3, it's the sweet spot, best bang for the buck and reliable.

I see you already found Jack's thread w/the 7psi turbo. Very nice return for the money, don't you think? (Remember he uses a Mustang dyno for tuning. His figures aren't going to sound good if you compare them to a Dynojet.)
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by moshi moshi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much would a supercharger cost me dosent it cost more than a turbo i really want to do something to it its to slow i think i love the car but not the power lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

You can get the Jackson race setup for something around $3,000. I believe that is everything you need to get going, using their power card. Of course this does not include i/h/e/Hondata. So by the time you add that stuff in you are right at turbo pricing, but at least you can break up how much you spend at a time.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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yeah i was using the dyno jet i heard the mustang dyno sucks lol
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by moshi moshi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i was using the dyno jet i heard the mustang dyno sucks lol
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The Mustang works just as well as a tuning device, and I think I heard they could handle cars like the Evolution and STi before other dynos could.

It's just that their reported figures are lower than Dynojet, so you're almost ashamed to report the figures in Honda Tech threads.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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The Mustang works just as well as a tuning device

The Mustang is a much more superior tuning device than a dynojet.

constant speed, vehicle simulation, constant load, variable load, etc....

dynojet is only good for WOT pulls, pretty useless for tuning IMHO
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CXr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The Mustang is a...superior tuning device....
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Well, folks, there you have it from the expert.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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well im going to pick up my rotas c8 today in getting 16 for 400$ with tires
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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thats not a bad price for 400, hell i'd buy them
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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if you search ebay you can get a jackson racing supercharger the race version with hondata for around 2900. if you want more info on it you can go to there web site http://www.jacksonracing.com. it just doesnt wieght out in my opinion right now to do one im going to wait till theres more used parts out there. if watch these site enough you can find some great deals.
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